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From: Alistair Maclean on 1 Jun 2010 07:16
On May 31, 12:46 pm, "Pete Dashwood"
<dashw...(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
> Alistair Maclean wrote:
> > On May 30, 9:27 am, "Pete Dashwood"
> > <dashw...(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
> >> Alistair Maclean wrote:
> >>> Pete - you were not familiar with the Art term "Readymades". This
> >>> is a term which was applied to Raoul Duffy's exhibit of a urinal as
> >>> a work of art. He took a porcelain urinal and turned it around,
> >>> signed his name and hung it on a wall as art. When criticised, he
> >>> argued that art was what he said it was.
>
> >>> Art is in the eye of the beholder (or the artist who isthe
> >>> originating beholder). So, therefore, if you don't consider
> >>> something to be art, but Raoul Duffy did, then it qualifies as art.
>
> >> Raoul Dufy is a favourite artist of mine and I am looking at a print
> >> of his, hanging on my wall as I write this.
>
> > Sorry
>
> > <eat humble pie>
>
> > My apologies, it was Marcel Duchamp not Raoul Duffy.
>
> > </eat humble pie>
>
> No problem Alistair. But his name is "Dufy" not "Duffy" :-)
>
> Pete.
> --
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You will find both spellings liberally splashed over the internet and
blogosphere. I stuck with the one that I knew but accept that the
correct spelling may be with a singleton f.
From: Anonymous on 6 Jun 2010 10:07
In article <1YCdnQ-yIpw0CZfRnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>,
HeyBub <heybub(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>Alistair Maclean wrote:

[snip]

>> Art is in the eye of the beholder (or the artist who isthe originating
>> beholder). So, therefore, if you don't consider something to be art,
>> but Raoul Duffy did, then it qualifies as art.
>
>Not exactly. Truth in "art" and other classical endeavors (cello, history,
>English literature, etc.) is a result of majority vote. In math, the
>physical sciences, and engineering, "truth" is empirical, demonstrable, and
>provable.

Odd use of quotation marks there... on the one hand it is 'Truth in
"art"...' (" original) while there is also '(m)ath, the physical sciences,
and engineering, "truth" is...' (" original). It might be seen that
qualifying the discipline ("art") in one and the phenomenon ("truth") in
the others reveals an innate prejudice (in the radical sense of
'pre-judging').

It might be good to recall that the Arts, by definition, include
astronomy, geometry, arithmetic and music (the Quadrivium) and that until
rather recently what are now called sciences were labelled as 'Natural
Philosophies'. One might then get a small smile out of a breezy assertion
such as 'In the Philosophies "truth" is empiracal, demonstrable and
provable.'

DD

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