Prev: Outsourcing across national borders was Re: How to talk like a programmer
Next: I am back (I think)
From: Pete Dashwood on 30 May 2010 04:27
Alistair Maclean wrote:
> Pete - you were not familiar with the Art term "Readymades". This is a
> term which was applied to Raoul Duffy's exhibit of a urinal as a work
> of art. He took a porcelain urinal and turned it around, signed his
> name and hung it on a wall as art. When criticised, he argued that art
> was what he said it was.
>
> Art is in the eye of the beholder (or the artist who isthe originating
> beholder). So, therefore, if you don't consider something to be art,
> but Raoul Duffy did, then it qualifies as art.

Raoul Dufy is a favourite artist of mine and I am looking at a print of his,
hanging on my wall as I write this.

I never heard the story about the urinal, and I never heard the term
"readymades" other than in connection with cigaretes, when I have heard it
used in place of "taiormades".

I don't doubt he said the comment you attribute to him but I doubt that he
was serious.

Rather, it was probably acomment on the enormous growth of his popularity
during the mid-twentieth century.

Pete.
--
"I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."


From: Alistair Maclean on 30 May 2010 07:49
On May 30, 9:27 am, "Pete Dashwood"
<dashw...(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
> Alistair Maclean wrote:
> > Pete - you were not familiar with the Art term "Readymades". This is a
> > term which was applied to Raoul Duffy's exhibit of a urinal as a work
> > of art. He took a porcelain urinal  and turned it around, signed his
> > name and hung it on a wall as art. When criticised, he argued that art
> > was what he said it was.
>
> > Art is in the eye of the beholder (or the artist who isthe originating
> > beholder). So, therefore, if you don't consider something to be art,
> > but Raoul Duffy did, then it qualifies as art.
>
> Raoul Dufy is a favourite artist of mine and I am looking at a print of his,
> hanging on my wall as I write this.
>

Sorry

<eat humble pie>

My apologies, it was Marcel Duchamp not Raoul Duffy.

</eat humble pie>
From: SkippyPB on 30 May 2010 11:52
On Sun, 30 May 2010 04:49:52 -0700 (PDT), Alistair Maclean
<alistair.j.l.maclean(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

>On May 30, 9:27�am, "Pete Dashwood"
><dashw...(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
>> Alistair Maclean wrote:
>> > Pete - you were not familiar with the Art term "Readymades". This is a
>> > term which was applied to Raoul Duffy's exhibit of a urinal as a work
>> > of art. He took a porcelain urinal �and turned it around, signed his
>> > name and hung it on a wall as art. When criticised, he argued that art
>> > was what he said it was.
>>
>> > Art is in the eye of the beholder (or the artist who isthe originating
>> > beholder). So, therefore, if you don't consider something to be art,
>> > but Raoul Duffy did, then it qualifies as art.
>>
>> Raoul Dufy is a favourite artist of mine and I am looking at a print of his,
>> hanging on my wall as I write this.
>>
>
>Sorry
>
><eat humble pie>
>
>My apologies, it was Marcel Duchamp not Raoul Duffy.
>
></eat humble pie>

Duchamp not only used a urinal, but he also used a snow shovel as a
work of art. From this website by the director of Dali House:

http://dalihouse.blogsome.com/2007/02/10/he-broke-my-heart-so-i-busted-his-arm

is this story about Duchamp:

"And finally, there�s Marcel Duchamp, who in 1917 bought a snow shovel
in a Manhattan hardware store and called it a work of art,
specifically �In Advance of the Broken Arm�. It was one of his
readymades and of course wasn�t meant to last, once its derisive
purpose was served. It dutifully vanished in time, but when Duchamp
was lionised in the 1960s for being ahead of his time, he authorised a
copy, in fact many of them. Snow shovels and urinals are in museums
everywhere, so think twice before you have a pee or offer to clear the
sidewalk."

BTW, this is a very interesting website if you are into art.

Regards,
--

////
(o o)
-oOO--(_)--OOo-


"It's not getting any smarter out there, people. You have to come to
terms with stupidity and make it work for you."
-- Frank Zappa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Remove nospam to email me.

Steve
From: Alistair Maclean on 30 May 2010 13:01
On May 30, 4:52 pm, SkippyPB <swieg...(a)Nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote:
> Snow shovels and urinals are in museums
> everywhere, so think twice before you have a pee or offer to clear the
> sidewalk."
>
> BTW, this is a very interesting website if you are into art.
>

Duly added to my favourites list. Ta.
From: Pete Dashwood on 31 May 2010 07:46
Alistair Maclean wrote:
> On May 30, 9:27 am, "Pete Dashwood"
> <dashw...(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
>> Alistair Maclean wrote:
>>> Pete - you were not familiar with the Art term "Readymades". This
>>> is a term which was applied to Raoul Duffy's exhibit of a urinal as
>>> a work of art. He took a porcelain urinal and turned it around,
>>> signed his name and hung it on a wall as art. When criticised, he
>>> argued that art was what he said it was.
>>
>>> Art is in the eye of the beholder (or the artist who isthe
>>> originating beholder). So, therefore, if you don't consider
>>> something to be art, but Raoul Duffy did, then it qualifies as art.
>>
>> Raoul Dufy is a favourite artist of mine and I am looking at a print
>> of his, hanging on my wall as I write this.
>>
>
> Sorry
>
> <eat humble pie>
>
> My apologies, it was Marcel Duchamp not Raoul Duffy.
>
> </eat humble pie>

No problem Alistair. But his name is "Dufy" not "Duffy" :-)

Pete.
--
"I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."


 |  Next  |  Last
Pages: 1 2
Prev: Outsourcing across national borders was Re: How to talk like a programmer
Next: I am back (I think)