From: Dave Searles on
Espen Vestre wrote:
> Ron Garret <rNOSPAMon(a)flownet.com> writes:
>> [says I'm a liar]
>
> Thank you for pointing that out.

I am not a liar and it is incorrect to thank someone for falsely
claiming otherwise.
From: Dave Searles on
Evan I wrote:
> I really had no intention of continuing on this thread, but I believe
> you are missing [rest of personal attack deleted]

I am missing nothing.
From: Dave Searles on
Raffael Cavallaro wrote:
> Circumvent is a proper subset of "translate, reverse
> engineer, decompile, disassemble, modify or create
> derivative works." You can't circumvent a limitation without reverse
> engineering how it works.

Apparently you can, if you make a not-especially-lucky guess instead of
decompiling it.
From: Dave Searles on
Robert Swindells wrote:
> Do the licence terms really matter ?
>
> I would have thought that the OP's actions would be prohibited by the
> DMCA.

Nope. The DMCA covers copy protection. Nobody here is discussing
cracking copy protection.
From: Raffael Cavallaro on
On 2009-10-10 21:01:01 -0400, Kaz Kylheku <kkylheku(a)gmail.com> said:

> In nearly every posting I have made in this thread, I made a clear
> distinction between doing something with the work (manipulating
> bits on your machine) and redistribution (making copies for other,
> broadcasting, etc).

I understand that *you* belive this distinction to be crucial, but the
law does not.

Specifically, courts have held that licenses *can* restrict in what way
you may manipulate the bits on your machine when it involves using a
work of which you are not the copyright holder.

The fact that you think the DMCA is the product of "insane fucks" will
not help anyone charged with a violation of it in the slightest.

--
Raffael Cavallaro