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From: Neil Harrington on 6 Dec 2009 13:37 "Paul Heslop" <paul.heslop(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:4B1BF10D.28C7730B(a)blueyonder.co.uk... > Neil Harrington wrote: >> >> "Paul Heslop" <paul.heslop(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:4B1B7013.46B34B0F(a)blueyonder.co.uk... >> > Bruce wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:41:59 GMT, Paul Heslop >> >> <paul.heslop(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >Fox 'news' the single worst offender. >> >> >> >> Yes, it's atrocious. An insult to anyone with intelligence, but >> >> popular in the USA. Go figure, as they say. ;-) >> >> >> >> >Americans really do seem to swallow a lot of stuff about us >> >> >'socialists' >> >> >> >> Americans really do seem to swallow a lot of stuff. Period. >> > >> > I happened to flick through onto an item about the health bill and the >> > way Fox presented it you would think their president was a criminal or >> > something. >> >> Well, "criminal" is a rather specific legal condition, but "or something" >> certainly fits. Obama has done little but make promises and break them >> since >> he started running for president, and while it would be something of a >> stretch to call him a criminal he clearly has no compunctions about >> breaking >> the law, as witness his illegal firing of Inspector General Walpin. >> http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Gerald-Walpin-speaks-the-inside-story-of-the-AmeriCorps-firing-48030697.html >> >> If you're that fond of Obama I wish we could send him to you. You'd love >> him >> because he regularly berates and apologizes for America, which attitudes >> must be high on your list of desirable qualities in a politician. He on >> the >> other hand does not seem particularly fond of Brits, so it's unlikely he >> could be induced to move there except by main force. >> > and of course you would rather have Bush? While Bush (either Bush) was far from ideal, of course I would rather have him than Obama. It's like asking whether I'd rather have a head cold or lung cancer. > >> > they also showed footage of obviously racist rednecks >> > opposed to the bill as if they were good nd sane people with a right >> > to be aggrieved... amazing. >> >> How "obviously racist rednecks"? Are you suffering from some really >> strange >> psychiatric condition? The health care bill is a 2000+ page monstrosity >> which would be ruinous to our existing health care system, greatly >> increase >> taxes and other costs especially for the elderly and the young, >> inevitably >> impose health care rationing and would still leave 25 million or so >> uninsured. It's an abopmination. >> > whatever your view on social welfare etc has nothing to do with the > fact that the people on film that day were not anything more than Unfortunately I don't have any idea what video you're talking about. > racists. Of course it is easier to spot bigotry when you don't live > within a society which still seems to accept that some of its states > find the colour of someone's skin offensive. I can't recall the exact > wording on the placards etc but there was little doubt to their > thoughts on Obama. Indeed, you are faithfully parroting the notion planted again and again by Obama himself: "If you don't vote for me you must be racist." You appear to be a very easily indoctrinated fellow. I wish you could "recall the exact wording" -- some people are able to discover "racism" in all sorts of things having really nothing to do with racism. "When in doubt, assume racism" appears to be the rule. > >> Yes, we really are "good and sane people with a right to be aggrieved," >> and >> most of us (not just Fox News watchers as you seem to believe) are indeed >> aggrieved. The more Americans learn about the proposed health care bill >> the >> more they despise it, and despise Obama too. Whatever his continuing >> popularity in Europe he is increasingly unpopular here at home, as shown >> by >> poll after poll. He would never get elected today, even running against a >> flawed candidate like McCain. Of course 19 out of 20 blacks might vote >> for >> him again as they did a year ago, but no other demographic group would >> want >> him. >> > Hell, I would be shocked if you did support him. That is one shock you will never have to endure. > the very fact that he > got in took me totally by surprise, It was closer than the numbers indicate, and more or less a fluke. By that I mean Obama was actually running behind McCain in the polls until very shortly before the election, when news developments really having little or nothing to do with them hit the Republicans very hard and left them no time to recover. > but by heck I'd be more than > shocked if he does get back in. You never can tell. Again, much depends on national and/or world developments between now and then, regardless of what Obama does or doesn't do. That's democracy for you. > There's little point in discussing > this with you, you are coming across as one of my sadly prejudiced > view of WASPS, sad because I allow it to colour my judgement of a > country where doubtless there are millions of right minded and caring > people, There are, but those are exactly the ones you don't like. I'm not a WASP, though. > where social justice doesn't have to mean flying the communist > flag. Interesting that you think it *might* mean that. > I wish you well and I hope you get the leader you really > deserve. I hope we do too.
From: Bruce on 6 Dec 2009 13:48 On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:59:41 GMT, Paul Heslop <paul.heslop(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >Hell, I would be shocked if you did support him. the very fact that he >got in took me totally by surprise, but by heck I'd be more than >shocked if he does get back in. There's little point in discussing >this with you, you are coming across as one of my sadly prejudiced >view of WASPS, sad because I allow it to colour my judgement of a >country where doubtless there are millions of right minded and caring >people, where social justice doesn't have to mean flying the communist >flag. I wish you well and I hope you get the leader you really >deserve. Unfortunately, the leader Neil Harrington deserves is ... .... Sarah Palin. ;-)
From: Paul Heslop on 6 Dec 2009 16:40 Bruce wrote: > > On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:59:41 GMT, Paul Heslop > <paul.heslop(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > >Hell, I would be shocked if you did support him. the very fact that he > >got in took me totally by surprise, but by heck I'd be more than > >shocked if he does get back in. There's little point in discussing > >this with you, you are coming across as one of my sadly prejudiced > >view of WASPS, sad because I allow it to colour my judgement of a > >country where doubtless there are millions of right minded and caring > >people, where social justice doesn't have to mean flying the communist > >flag. I wish you well and I hope you get the leader you really > >deserve. > > Unfortunately, the leader Neil Harrington deserves is ... > > ... Sarah Palin. ;-) oh do stop! :O) -- Paul (we break easy) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/
From: Neil Harrington on 6 Dec 2009 19:26 "Bruce" <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:d1vnh5h29in9grt0tld1gvlse39329jsju(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:59:41 GMT, Paul Heslop > <paul.heslop(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >>Hell, I would be shocked if you did support him. the very fact that he >>got in took me totally by surprise, but by heck I'd be more than >>shocked if he does get back in. There's little point in discussing >>this with you, you are coming across as one of my sadly prejudiced >>view of WASPS, sad because I allow it to colour my judgement of a >>country where doubtless there are millions of right minded and caring >>people, where social justice doesn't have to mean flying the communist >>flag. I wish you well and I hope you get the leader you really >>deserve. > > > Unfortunately, the leader Neil Harrington deserves is ... > > ... Sarah Palin. ;-) You have my permission to address me directly. Whatever Palin's (real or imagined) shortcomings, her qualifications for the job so far exceed Obama's as to make comparison odious. She would have brought actual executive experience to the presidency. Not just as the very successful governor of a state; even when she was mayor of little Wasilla she gained more executive experience than The One had ever had before he became president. (And boy, does it show.) Obama's executive experience seems to have been pretty much limited to his work as a "community organizer," i.e. instructing gaggles of welfare recipients in techniques such as blocking banks' driveways and occupying lobbies in order to obtain loans for which they were nowhere near qualified. In this important work he was closely associated with ACORN, arguably the most corrupt and criminal organization of its kind the country has ever seen. During his time as a U.S. Senator, I think about all he did was head up one subcommittee -- which never held a hearing -- but of course that may be because he was spending all his time running for president. And of course Palin is known to have been born in the U.S., making her eligible to be president. No one seems to know for sure where Obama was born, but the overwhelming probability is that it was in Kenya -- making him the first American president constitutionally ineligible to be president. That is the only really *important* "first" about Obama -- not the matter of his race, which is only important to people who obsess about race.
From: Ray Fischer on 6 Dec 2009 20:15
Neil Harrington <never(a)home.com> wrote: > >"Bruce" <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >news:d1vnh5h29in9grt0tld1gvlse39329jsju(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:59:41 GMT, Paul Heslop >> <paul.heslop(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> >>>Hell, I would be shocked if you did support him. the very fact that he >>>got in took me totally by surprise, but by heck I'd be more than >>>shocked if he does get back in. There's little point in discussing >>>this with you, you are coming across as one of my sadly prejudiced >>>view of WASPS, sad because I allow it to colour my judgement of a >>>country where doubtless there are millions of right minded and caring >>>people, where social justice doesn't have to mean flying the communist >>>flag. I wish you well and I hope you get the leader you really >>>deserve. >> >> Unfortunately, the leader Neil Harrington deserves is ... >> >> ... Sarah Palin. ;-) > >You have my permission to address me directly. Except that you run away from people who challenge you. >Whatever Palin's (real or imagined) shortcomings, her qualifications for the >job so far exceed Obama's as to make comparison odious. ROFL! -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net |