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From: pimpom on 2 Apr 2010 06:52
philo wrote:
> pimpom wrote:
>> John McGaw wrote:
>>> On 3/28/2010 12:04 PM, philo wrote:
>>>
>>> But since you called your power source the mains you may not
>>> be
>>> nickel-aware.
>>
>> I was not aware of any pondial difference in the term used to
>> refer to the standard domestic electrical supply. What is it
>> called in the US?
>>
>>
>
> Really just a small but real difference.
>
> In the US it's simply referred to as the "main power"
>
> or perhaps AC power outlet..or "unplug it from the wall"
> etc...but
> there is no "universal" standard term that I am aware of.
>
> The Europeans (as far as I've noticed) seem to be pretty
> consistent in
> calling it "the mains".

I see. Thanks for the clarification. As a non-native user of
English, living literally thousands of miles from any place where
it's natively spoken, I'm familiar with many of the differences
between BrE and AmE, but not with all. I read and post in the
electronics NGs, but never noticed that Americans/USans don't use
the term "mains". I find it quite convenient: mains, mains power,
mains outlet, mains voltage, etc.


From: philo on 2 Apr 2010 17:56
pimpom wrote:
> philo wrote:
>> pimpom wrote:
>>> John McGaw wrote:
>>>> On 3/28/2010 12:04 PM, philo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But since you called your power source the mains you may not
>>>> be
>>>> nickel-aware.
>>> I was not aware of any pondial difference in the term used to
>>> refer to the standard domestic electrical supply. What is it
>>> called in the US?
>>>
>>>
>> Really just a small but real difference.
>>
>> In the US it's simply referred to as the "main power"
>>
>> or perhaps AC power outlet..or "unplug it from the wall"
>> etc...but
>> there is no "universal" standard term that I am aware of.
>>
>> The Europeans (as far as I've noticed) seem to be pretty
>> consistent in
>> calling it "the mains".
>
> I see. Thanks for the clarification. As a non-native user of
> English, living literally thousands of miles from any place where
> it's natively spoken, I'm familiar with many of the differences
> between BrE and AmE, but not with all. I read and post in the
> electronics NGs, but never noticed that Americans/USans don't use
> the term "mains". I find it quite convenient: mains, mains power,
> mains outlet, mains voltage, etc.
>
>


funny how there are those small differences


How good is your English?


Why is it that first you can chop a tree down...

then later, you can chop it up?

From: kony on 3 Apr 2010 10:37
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:22:41 +0530, "pimpom"
<pimpom(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>philo wrote:
>> pimpom wrote:
>>> John McGaw wrote:
>>>> On 3/28/2010 12:04 PM, philo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But since you called your power source the mains you may not
>>>> be
>>>> nickel-aware.
>>>
>>> I was not aware of any pondial difference in the term used to
>>> refer to the standard domestic electrical supply. What is it
>>> called in the US?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Really just a small but real difference.
>>
>> In the US it's simply referred to as the "main power"
>>
>> or perhaps AC power outlet..or "unplug it from the wall"
>> etc...but
>> there is no "universal" standard term that I am aware of.
>>
>> The Europeans (as far as I've noticed) seem to be pretty
>> consistent in
>> calling it "the mains".
>
>I see. Thanks for the clarification. As a non-native user of
>English, living literally thousands of miles from any place where
>it's natively spoken, I'm familiar with many of the differences
>between BrE and AmE, but not with all. I read and post in the
>electronics NGs, but never noticed that Americans/USans don't use
>the term "mains". I find it quite convenient: mains, mains power,
>mains outlet, mains voltage, etc.
>

I'm American and use the term mains, though in a
conversation with someone who has no electrical inclination
in the US I'd probably use the term "AC line" or "wall
outlet".
From: John McGaw on 4 Apr 2010 12:26
On 3/30/2010 2:44 PM, Tinkerer wrote:
> "John McGaw"<Nobody(a)Nowh.ere> wrote in message
> news:pjOrn.122578$Up1.42400(a)en-nntp-09.dc1.easynews.com...
>> On 3/28/2010 12:04 PM, philo wrote:
>> snip...
>>>
>>>
>>> here is the manual
>>>
>>> http://download.shuttle.eu/Downloads/Barebone/SN45G/Manual/
>>>
>>>
>>> but you won't need it
>>>
>>> the cmos battery looks like a nickel it's is very obvious
>>>
>>> it's near the cpu
>>
>> But since you called your power source the mains you may not be
>> nickel-aware. Look for something shiny and 20mm in diameter. Think UK 20p
>> coin and you won't go far wrong.
>
> 10p

I thought that a 20p coin at 21mm would be a better comparison than a 10p
coin at 24mm. The actual cell is probably 20mm in diameter give-or-take a bit.
From: Tinkerer on 5 Apr 2010 08:12

"John McGaw" <Nobody(a)Nowh.ere> wrote in message
news:I43un.527635$FK3.186365(a)en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
> On 3/30/2010 2:44 PM, Tinkerer wrote:
>> "John McGaw"<Nobody(a)Nowh.ere> wrote in message
>> news:pjOrn.122578$Up1.42400(a)en-nntp-09.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> On 3/28/2010 12:04 PM, philo wrote:
>>> snip...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> here is the manual
>>>>
>>>> http://download.shuttle.eu/Downloads/Barebone/SN45G/Manual/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> but you won't need it
>>>>
>>>> the cmos battery looks like a nickel it's is very obvious
>>>>
>>>> it's near the cpu
>>>
>>> But since you called your power source the mains you may not be
>>> nickel-aware. Look for something shiny and 20mm in diameter. Think UK
>>> 20p
>>> coin and you won't go far wrong.
>>
>> 10p
>
> I thought that a 20p coin at 21mm would be a better comparison than a 10p
> coin at 24mm. The actual cell is probably 20mm in diameter give-or-take a
> bit.

I hadn't measured, it just looked more right. You are quite correct
though, now I check size wise the 20 is nearer.


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