From: Black Knight on

"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
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> On 14 Nov 2005 15:41:12 -0800, "Jeff Root" <jeff5(a)freemars.org> wrote:
>
>>Henri Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> The fringe shift is proportional to speed BUT IT OCCURS
>>> ONLY DURING ACCELERATION.
>>
>>Henri, this was precious! Your ability to see only what
>>you want to see and totally ignore reality is breathtaking.
>>Re-read the short sentence quoted above and try to figure
>>out how it contradicts itself. It is really comical!
>>
>> -- Jeff, in Minneapolis
>
> You failed to appreciate that the word 'shift' can be both a noun and a
> verb.
>
> The fringe shift (noun) is proportional to speed but the fringe shift
> (verb)
> OCCURS ONLY DURING ACCELERATION.
>
> Maybe the purists would suggest that I should have phrased it as "the
> shifting
> of fringes".........
>
> However I don't think you have the intelligence to understand the finer
> points
> of this anyway.
>
>
>
> HW.

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From: Jerry on
Henri Wilson wrote:
> On 14 Nov 2005 15:41:12 -0800, "Jeff Root" <jeff5(a)freemars.org> wrote:
>
> >Henri Wilson wrote:
> >
> >> The fringe shift is proportional to speed BUT IT OCCURS
> >> ONLY DURING ACCELERATION.
> >
> >Henri, this was precious! Your ability to see only what
> >you want to see and totally ignore reality is breathtaking.
> >Re-read the short sentence quoted above and try to figure
> >out how it contradicts itself. It is really comical!
> >
> > -- Jeff, in Minneapolis
>
> You failed to appreciate that the word 'shift' can be both a noun and a verb.
>
> The fringe shift (noun) is proportional to speed but the fringe shift (verb)
> OCCURS ONLY DURING ACCELERATION.

....and the the total, steady-state fringe shift remains non-zero after
acceleration has ended and the Sagnac apparatus is undergoing
steady-state rotation. Otherwise fiber-optic gyros wouldn't work.

Since fiber optic gyros -do- work, BaT is falsified.

Jerry

From: bz on
HW@..(Henri Wilson) wrote in news:o40in11kuvc1n85k3mls0drg34jt18ev7c@
4ax.com:

> I am more interested in the other question I asked.
>
> Has anyone ever shown that ALL the mass of an atom can be converted to
mc^2
> energy?
>
> It has probably been proved only for e+/e- pairs and for nuclear binding
> energy.
>
> So far, no one has been able to convert a whole atom to energy.

Not too hard to do. Build one atom of anti hydrogen with a positron and an
antiproton; collide it with one atom of normal hydrogen and you have just
converted TWO whole atoms into energy.




--
bz

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

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From: Henri Wilson on
On 14 Nov 2005 19:06:05 -0800, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus(a)comcast.net> wrote:

>Henri Wilson wrote:
>> On 14 Nov 2005 15:41:12 -0800, "Jeff Root" <jeff5(a)freemars.org> wrote:
>>
>> >Henri Wilson wrote:
>> >
>> >> The fringe shift is proportional to speed BUT IT OCCURS
>> >> ONLY DURING ACCELERATION.
>> >
>> >Henri, this was precious! Your ability to see only what
>> >you want to see and totally ignore reality is breathtaking.
>> >Re-read the short sentence quoted above and try to figure
>> >out how it contradicts itself. It is really comical!
>> >
>> > -- Jeff, in Minneapolis
>>
>> You failed to appreciate that the word 'shift' can be both a noun and a verb.
>>
>> The fringe shift (noun) is proportional to speed but the fringe shift (verb)
>> OCCURS ONLY DURING ACCELERATION.
>
>...and the the total, steady-state fringe shift remains non-zero after
>acceleration has ended and the Sagnac apparatus is undergoing
>steady-state rotation. Otherwise fiber-optic gyros wouldn't work.
>
>Since fiber optic gyros -do- work, BaT is falsified.

You are just as stupid as the rest.

Why don't you work out WHY the fringes shift during angular acceleration...
instead of whining.

You will soon see that it make no difference whether you use c or c+v. The path
lengths change by the same amounts...and it is path length that determines how
many wavelengths fit into each path. Wavelength DOES not change according to
the BaTh.

Sagnac probably refutes SR because that theory requires a wavelength change
during rotational acceleration ...which would prevent any fringe movement..

>
>Jerry


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From: Henri Wilson on
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 02:08:22 GMT, "Black Knight" <Androcles(a)castle.edu> wrote:

>
>"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
>news:710in11itkr30i1fau1cv58rh91hi25cmo(a)4ax.com...
>> On 14 Nov 2005 05:37:52 -0800, "George Dishman" <george(a)briar.demon.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Black Knight wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Grandpa puts granddaughter and grandson on a carousel and watches
>>>> them walk around it in opposite directions. The pass each other on the
>>>> opposite side and meet back at grandpa if the carousel isn't turning,
>>>> ...
>>>
>>>Good analogy but the source and detector are on
>>>the turntable so Grandpa is on the carousel. You
>>>have shown why Ritz says there will be no output,
>>>the kids return to Grandpa at the same time
>>>regardless of the rate the carousel is turning.
>>
>> Forget it George.
>> I have now completely explained why sagnac does not refute the BaTh.
>> .
>
>Forget it, H. The phuckwit writes to me and I'm not answering the
>idiot, he's already on my kill-file as a worthless turd.
>This Grandpa isn't getting in any kiddy carousel.
>You may have explained why it doesn't refute your bath water,
>I've explained why it DOES refute Einstein's phuckwittery, whatever
>the dish that ran away with the spoonfed says.
>
>BTW, I've now duplicated a certain curve we had a bet on.

1493 Aql?

>
>Androcles.
>


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