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From: Pascal Hambourg on 2 Nov 2009 09:27
Joe a �crit :
>
> My problem is that I'm seeing SMART warnings about the other drive
> too:
>
> Below is the listing of SMART attributes for the good drive (smartctl
> -A /dev/sdb):
[...]
> A number of these values are above their thresholds

AFAICS, all attribute values are above their thresholds, which is fine,
and nothing here indicates an imminent failure.

There are just a few relocated sectors, which could be worrying. But
there are no pending sectors, which would have meant that some "weak"
sectors could not be relocated before they actually became unreadable,
causing data loss. I would just check that the relocated sector count
does not increase too fast over time.
From: Chris Cox on 3 Nov 2009 18:14
On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 14:50 +0100, Piotr Szymański wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have two Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB (ST31000528AS) drives in a
> Linux software RAID-1 configuration. Today I've got a notification from
> smartd that one of the drives (sda) is failing:

:-)

Well, IMHO, it's because it's a Seagate. Ever since Seagate
purchased Maxtor, the quality has gone WAY downhill.

With that said, you might want to investigate flashing
the drive firmware. But IMHO, you'll be better off with
a WD drive or even a Hitachi drive today.

YMMV.


From: jellybean stonerfish on 3 Nov 2009 19:41
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:14:13 -0600, Chris Cox wrote:

> On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 14:50 +0100, Piotr Szymański wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have two Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB (ST31000528AS) drives in a
>> Linux software RAID-1 configuration. Today I've got a notification from
>> smartd that one of the drives (sda) is failing:
>
> :-)
>
> Well, IMHO, it's because it's a Seagate.

I will second that. I have a 500gb barracuda next to me that died
after only a year or two. It was undetectable by linux and windows.
So now I get a new ultra-strength refrigerator magnet.

> Ever since Seagate purchased
> Maxtor, the quality has gone WAY downhill.
>
> With that said, you might want to investigate flashing the drive
> firmware. But IMHO, you'll be better off with a WD drive or even a
> Hitachi drive today.
>
> YMMV.


From: Wanna-Be Sys Admin on 3 Nov 2009 21:44
Chris Cox wrote:

> On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 14:50 +0100, Piotr Szymański wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have two Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB (ST31000528AS) drives in a
>> Linux software RAID-1 configuration. Today I've got a notification
>> from smartd that one of the drives (sda) is failing:
>
> :-)
>
> Well, IMHO, it's because it's a Seagate. Ever since Seagate
> purchased Maxtor, the quality has gone WAY downhill.
>
> With that said, you might want to investigate flashing
> the drive firmware. But IMHO, you'll be better off with
> a WD drive or even a Hitachi drive today.
>
> YMMV.

Ironic, I found Maxtor to such and always used WD and Seagate, but after
I had a bunch of WD's fail (I mean, far too many to ever give me hope
they are worth trying ever again), I switched to Seagate. I had a few
fail, which was unusual. I'm using Seagate now, because out of Maxtor,
WD and Seagate, I still trust them more. I've not had a failure since,
but I have 4 redundant backups in full preparation that they will fail.
I personally think that when they bought Maxtor, that they used the
Maxtor designers and quality (inferior) on the "used to be better"
Seagate team, and that's why both suck now. But, that's my opinion and
theory, I've never looked into it. I just don't trust any drive
manufacturer. I used to use Hitachi, but had issues with them as well.
Fujitsu is the only brand I ever had not a single problem with, but I
don't recall if they went out of business or if they were just too much
money (really, not too much if they don't fail), but I pretty much
don't trust any brand anymore. Everyone's had inexcusable experiences
with all brands and models, and maybe it was a heating issue, or maybe
they were just unlucky. Eventually, no matter the drive brand or
model, everyone's going to be unlucky. All I can say is, at this
point, the only brand I'll avoid indefinitely, based on my experience,
is Western Digital. I'll use Maxtor before I use WD's again. I'll use
Seagate before I use WD, and I might otherwise have to start looking
into it again if I have these fail (but 3 years on 16 of the same
brand/model Seagate SATA II drives and I'm still very happy (for now)).
--
Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything.
From: Baho Utot on 4 Nov 2009 07:12
Chris Cox wrote:

> On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 14:50 +0100, Piotr Szymański wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have two Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB (ST31000528AS) drives in a
>> Linux software RAID-1 configuration. Today I've got a notification from
>> smartd that one of the drives (sda) is failing:
>
> :-)
>
> Well, IMHO, it's because it's a Seagate. Ever since Seagate
> purchased Maxtor, the quality has gone WAY downhill.
>
> With that said, you might want to investigate flashing
> the drive firmware. But IMHO, you'll be better off with
> a WD drive or even a Hitachi drive today.
>
> YMMV.

Second the Hitachi, no error even after 8413 hours of continuous use!

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED
WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail
Always - 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 128 128 054 Pre-fail
Offline - 164
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 115 115 024 Pre-fail
Always - 333 (Average 333)
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age
Always - 33
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail
Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067 Pre-fail
Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 020 Pre-fail
Offline - 288
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 099 099 000 Old_age
Always - 8413
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 060 Pre-fail
Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age
Always - 33
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age
Always - 115
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age
Always - 115
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 181 181 000 Old_age
Always - 33 (Lifetime Min/Max 18/48)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age
Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age
Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000 Old_age
Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age
Always - 0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged


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