Barracuda ST31000528AS problem
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From: CF on 4 Nov 2009 09:19 Chris Cox wrote: > On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 14:50 +0100, Piotr Szymański wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I have two Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB (ST31000528AS) drives in a >> Linux software RAID-1 configuration. Today I've got a notification from >> smartd that one of the drives (sda) is failing: > > :-) > > Well, IMHO, it's because it's a Seagate. Ever since Seagate > purchased Maxtor, the quality has gone WAY downhill. > > With that said, you might want to investigate flashing > the drive firmware. But IMHO, you'll be better off with > a WD drive or even a Hitachi drive today. > > YMMV. If the Hitachi drives have improved since the "IBM DeskStar" days! Had two of them out in two IBM desktops. I have never bought one since.
From: CF on 4 Nov 2009 09:22 root wrote: > Piotr Szymañski <szyman(a)REMOVETHISmagres.net> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I have two Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB (ST31000528AS) drives in a >> Linux software RAID-1 configuration. Today I've got a notification from >> smartd that one of the drives (sda) is failing: >> > > I had two of the 1Tb drives fail within a week of purchase. > Send them back to Seagate for replacement. When you call > Seagate they will warn you that they may reject your drive > if you don't pack it correctly. I simply packed the first > drive in the original box and returned it. They took it > and returned the drive in a big box with lots of foam around > the drive. I returned the second drive in the box they > sent. Since then I have had no problems with the replacement > drives. Something rotten about the first 1Tb drives. > > PS if you opt for them to send you a drive before they > get your drive you will get hit with a $25 shipping charge. > The UPS shipping for one drive is about $9. I just went through that game with them: repacking in the original box. I had already gotten rid of the foam, and had to custom cut some floral styrofoam to exactly fit the drive, they accepted that. Am keeping the foam this time.
From: Chris Cox on 4 Nov 2009 14:00 On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 18:44 -0800, Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote: > Chris Cox wrote: > > > On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 14:50 +0100, Piotr SzymaÅski wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I have two Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB (ST31000528AS) drives in a > >> Linux software RAID-1 configuration. Today I've got a notification > >> from smartd that one of the drives (sda) is failing: > > > > :-) > > > > Well, IMHO, it's because it's a Seagate. Ever since Seagate > > purchased Maxtor, the quality has gone WAY downhill. > > > > With that said, you might want to investigate flashing > > the drive firmware. But IMHO, you'll be better off with > > a WD drive or even a Hitachi drive today. > > > > YMMV. > > Ironic, I found Maxtor to such and always used WD and Seagate, but after > I had a bunch of WD's fail (I mean, far too many to ever give me hope > they are worth trying ever again), I switched to Seagate. I had a few It is VERY much a time to time, generational thing to evaluate. But right now, I find the WD's and the Hitachi's to be pretty good. Obviously, as it does, that opinion will change from generation to generation. WD had their really bad drive back in the 90's (1.6G I believe) that cause a lot of grief. Much like the IBM Deskstar's did, but that changed with Hitachi. I have 16 x 160G PATA WD's back when they first came out in a large DAS RAID unit... and, believe it or not, we've not lost a single one. YMMV of course. My home SAN consists of 8 x 1TB WD Blacks... now.. that's WAY too early on to make a definitive statement, but I do know that I have had Seagates that are even newer start dying in me. Sure... you can get them replaced... but what a pain!! We have a 21TB SAN that uses 42 x 500G SATA Hitachi's in it. Over the past 5 years, we've had two of those go bad. So... not a perfect track record. Our 42TB SAN uses 42 x 1TB 1st gen SATA Hitachi's and it's been in use for almost 3 years... never have lost a drive. One problem is that everyone wants to know what to buy TODAY... but you really can't give much of a long term assessment about drives that are still what one would buy today... a problem with technology in general. With that said, I find dead new Seagates all over the place.... so I stand beside my Segate == Maxtor == junk statement for now.
From: Wanna-Be Sys Admin on 5 Nov 2009 16:39 Chris Cox wrote: > It is VERY much a time to time, generational thing to evaluate. > Well, that's pretty much it. All brands and models seem to have a bad run at some point, and some cover several of a brand's models. It's always a risk and the same model might not work as well for someone else. I know that I had a massive number of WD's fail over the last 8 years or so, and it was just enough for me. But, I've had most any brand and model fail sooner than it should have. All companies have bad runs, so I try and remove that risk until they've been out and tested for a while (so I don't get the newest, largest models), especially since 6 months down the road they'll be 1/2 the price anyway. FYI, my WD failures were probably from 2000 to 2005/6. I've not tried any for at least 2 or 3 years now. -- Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything.
From: Wanna-Be Sys Admin on 5 Nov 2009 16:48
Wanna-Be Sys Admin wrote: > FYI, my WD failures were probably from 2000 to 2005/6. I've > not tried any for at least 2 or 3 years now. That should be, when the failures happened. I had good luck with WD's until about 2000 or so, so the 90s were actually good to me and WD. I've never had a good year or good luck with Maxtor, no matter what year it was. I've had both good and bad luck with Seagate, but right now mine are running great and have for years without a single problem. BTW, I'm using 16 of the Seagate Barracuda ST3500641AS. Not the fastest, biggest, but they are not very much, they are 500 gig and I've not had a single failure (they have really good ratings -- again, I waited a few months before getting them, but I do that with most all hardware (boards, memory, cpu, drives, etc.)). -- Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything. |