From: Peter Ceresole on
J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

> Not giving up the big old Kensinton trackball yet.

I used one for a year at least, but then realised that for me everything
was actually easier and quicker with a mouse. So I gave the fat
Kensington away.
--
Peter
From: Duncan Kennedy on
In message <1jflhm8.qhs92cbk3lzyN(a)de-ster.xs4all.nl>, J. J. Lodder
<nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> writes
>Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>>
>> > And it really is rather wonderful - once I enabled right-click, and
>> > then added MagicPrefs so I could get a middle-click and an alt-tab
>> > tap, anyway. It's pointlessly limited before that, however pretty.
>>
>> When we tried it at the Applestore during the ucsm works outing, when I
>> found that you *still* can't program any of the 'buttons' to double
>> click, I gave up on it. Pity, becasue I think it's a really nice thing.
>>
>> But when my Logitech mice give up, it'll have to be Logitech
>> replacements.
>
>Not giving up the big old Kensinton trackball yet.
>
Is it a modern one, Jan?

I have two of the very old ones - serial connection and the connection
of the socket to the board a bit knackered - keeps breaking its joint.
They were hard used.

I use Microsoft ones now - the ones with the big ball on the right so I
can use my thumb on the buttons - but there not quite the same :-(

Been using a Wacom Bamboo with pen on the Mac for months - getting used
to it.
--
Duncan K
Downtown Dalgety Bay
From: J. J. Lodder on
Duncan Kennedy <no-spam(a)nospam.otterson-bg.couk> wrote:

> In message <1jflhm8.qhs92cbk3lzyN(a)de-ster.xs4all.nl>, J. J. Lodder
> <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> writes
> >Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > And it really is rather wonderful - once I enabled right-click, and
> >> > then added MagicPrefs so I could get a middle-click and an alt-tab
> >> > tap, anyway. It's pointlessly limited before that, however pretty.
> >>
> >> When we tried it at the Applestore during the ucsm works outing, when I
> >> found that you *still* can't program any of the 'buttons' to double
> >> click, I gave up on it. Pity, becasue I think it's a really nice thing.
> >>
> >> But when my Logitech mice give up, it'll have to be Logitech
> >> replacements.
> >
> >Not giving up the big old Kensinton trackball yet.
> >
> Is it a modern one, Jan?

No, the blue oldie with the six quick fire buttons, (which I don't use)
and the big steel ball bearings.
(the best ever made, much better than the latest crop imho) See
<http://www.tetraplegicliving.com/images/stories/kensington_trackball.jp
g> for identification.
Unfortunately the electronics tends to fail after five years or so.

> I have two of the very old ones - serial connection and the connection
> of the socket to the board a bit knackered - keeps breaking its joint.
> They were hard used.

Those were very good too. (used them a lot in the beige age)

> I use Microsoft ones now - the ones with the big ball on the right so I
> can use my thumb on the buttons - but there not quite the same :-(

These don't look like they'll suit me.

> Been using a Wacom Bamboo with pen on the Mac for months - getting used
> to it.

Never tried,

Jan
From: James Jolley on
On 2010-03-19 16:42:09 +0000, peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) said:

> J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
>
>> Not giving up the big old Kensinton trackball yet.
>
> I used one for a year at least, but then realised that for me everything
> was actually easier and quicker with a mouse. So I gave the fat
> Kensington away.

I'd be interested in this because many disabled users prefer them for
accessibility. Are there any studies done comparing the productivity
rate of someone using a trackball rather than a mouse?

From: Duncan Kennedy on
In message <80i2emFar6U3(a)mid.individual.net>, James Jolley
<jrjolley(a)me.com> writes
>On 2010-03-19 16:42:09 +0000, peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) said:
>
>> J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Not giving up the big old Kensinton trackball yet.
>> I used one for a year at least, but then realised that for me
>>everything
>> was actually easier and quicker with a mouse. So I gave the fat
>> Kensington away.
>
>I'd be interested in this because many disabled users prefer them for
>accessibility. Are there any studies done comparing the productivity
>rate of someone using a trackball rather than a mouse?
>
It may depend on the nature of your RSI! That's why I use one - I
developed RSI many years ago and although it eventually cleared, it was
not until I started using a trackball with a thumb control for the
buttons and fingers on the ball (Not the other kind with the ball in the
middle).
--
Duncan K
Downtown Dalgety Bay
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