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From: kitekrazy on 8 May 2010 10:07 On 5/8/2010 8:25 AM, Martin Holmes wrote: > If I were building a new box now, I'd use a smallish (64GB?) SSD drive > for the OS, and two 2TB drives for data. The SSD would be fast and silent. > You'd be surprised how quickly a 64GB drive would fill up using a 64 bit OS. Some apps give no flexibility on where to install data. Sure it would be silent but the lowest price 64GB SSD is the same price as a 160GB Velociraptor. Plus you get a 5yr warranty. All the research I've read states SSD have a shorter life span than mechanical drives. > An approach I find works well is to put the DAW software, samples etc. > all on one drive, and my projects all on the other, then back them up to > each other using Robocopy at the end of every session. That gives me > local duplicates both of the Sonar setup and the project data. The SSD > could also be fully backed up to one or both of the HDs. > > (I use an external NAS as well, of course.) > > Cheers, > Martin > > Ardcorr wrote: >> Hi All >> I'm thinking of buying a new DAW and am thinking of going elsewhere. >> I'll explain. >> For the last 10 years I have used a company which once held a great >> reputation called >> "Red Submarine" I've known the guy in the tech department pretty much >> all that time and he's always been very helpful. A few years back >> Redsub merged with a company called "Gear4music" and I feel maybe >> they're not quite what they used to be and thought it was time to have >> a look at who else was building DAWs but don't seem able to find many. >> Digital village have something called "synergy" which is extremely >> over priced >> (they are selling windows 7 home premium for £179) I thought it was a >> typo at first as it retails >> for around £80 here. >> I did find a company who build computers that are very cheap and very >> configurable and thus very tempting. >> They're called "PCspecialist" (http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers/ >> intel-core-i7-pc/) >> but because they don't build for musicians only I am a bit doubtful, >> although they claim to build for musicians, gamers and every one and >> anyone. >> I went and configured one of their I7 machines and came up with the >> following... >> >> Intel core''17Processor 17-960(3.20Ghz) 4.8GTs/8mb cache >> ASUS P6X58D-E: DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, 3-Way SLI >> 12GB CORSAIR XMS3 TRI-DDR3 1333Mhz >> 512MB NVIDIA GFORCE 210 EXPRESS >> Power Supply CORSAIR 650W PSU (TX650) 80+ ULTRA QUITE >> Super Quite 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEAT PIPE CPU COOLER >> 640 GB WD CAVIAR GREEN SATA 3Gb/s 64MB CACHE >> 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER >> INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER >> WINDOWS 7 HOME PREMIUM 64Bit DVD & Licence >> 3 Year Standard Warranty (i Month Collect & Return) Lifetime Tech >> Support >> All packed in The Coolermaster Sileo 500 Super Quiet Case >> >> All for a very reasonable £1,362.00 >> >> I think this is quite a bit better and more "future proof" than the >> Red Sub >> "Extreme Audio Machine" >> (http://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/Red-Sub-Extreme- >> Audio-Desktop-Computer/A2N) >> >> Ok, it's an extra £200 but you're getting (I think) quite a bit more >> with it) >> I'll probably call Red Sub and give them the above spec (pcspecialist) >> and price and see if they can match it but they told me they don't >> have those boards and if I'm going to spend that much money I might as >> well get something that supports USB3 which is where we're all heading >> no? >> >> I know there are a number of people on here who build their own >> machines and all credit to them but I prefer let someone else pull >> their graying hair out on my behalf. >> Cheers >> Steve >> >>
From: Martin Holmes on 8 May 2010 19:50 On 10-05-08 07:07 AM, kitekrazy wrote: > On 5/8/2010 8:25 AM, Martin Holmes wrote: >> If I were building a new box now, I'd use a smallish (64GB?) SSD drive >> for the OS, and two 2TB drives for data. The SSD would be fast and >> silent. >> > > You'd be surprised how quickly a 64GB drive would fill up using a 64 bit > OS. Some apps give no flexibility on where to install data. I only put music apps on my DAW, really, and I don't usually bother with the kind of application that won't let you install it where you want it to go. I can't think of any that I use or need that are like that. Seriously, though, 64GB on the OS drive? What could eat up that space? I always put Sonar on a second drive, and projects on a third. My OS drive is virtually empty except for backups from the other two drives (with three HDs in my current and previous DAWs, I've always backed up all drives to all drives). > Sure it would be silent but the lowest price 64GB SSD is the same price > as a 160GB Velociraptor. Plus you get a 5yr warranty. All the research > I've read states SSD have a shorter life span than mechanical drives. They haven't really been around long enough for us to find out, really. The one in my EeePC is still going strong. A > Sure it would be silent but the lowest price 64GB SSD is the same price > as a 160GB Velociraptor. Plus you get a 5yr warranty. All the research > I've read states SSD have a shorter life span than mechanical drives. They haven't really been around long enough for us to find out, really. The one in my EeePC is still going strong. And there have been no stories of failure emerging so far. I think they'll prove robust. Cheers, Martin >> An approach I find works well is to put the DAW software, samples etc. >> all on one drive, and my projects all on the other, then back them up to >> each other using Robocopy at the end of every session. That gives me >> local duplicates both of the Sonar setup and the project data. The SSD >> could also be fully backed up to one or both of the HDs. >> >> (I use an external NAS as well, of course.) >> >> Cheers, >> Martin >> >> Ardcorr wrote: >>> Hi All >>> I'm thinking of buying a new DAW and am thinking of going elsewhere. >>> I'll explain. >>> For the last 10 years I have used a company which once held a great >>> reputation called >>> "Red Submarine" I've known the guy in the tech department pretty much >>> all that time and he's always been very helpful. A few years back >>> Redsub merged with a company called "Gear4music" and I feel maybe >>> they're not quite what they used to be and thought it was time to have >>> a look at who else was building DAWs but don't seem able to find many. >>> Digital village have something called "synergy" which is extremely >>> over priced >>> (they are selling windows 7 home premium for £179) I thought it was a >>> typo at first as it retails >>> for around £80 here. >>> I did find a company who build computers that are very cheap and very >>> configurable and thus very tempting. >>> They're called "PCspecialist" (http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers/ >>> intel-core-i7-pc/) >>> but because they don't build for musicians only I am a bit doubtful, >>> although they claim to build for musicians, gamers and every one and >>> anyone. >>> I went and configured one of their I7 machines and came up with the >>> following... >>> >>> Intel core''17Processor 17-960(3.20Ghz) 4.8GTs/8mb cache >>> ASUS P6X58D-E: DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, 3-Way SLI >>> 12GB CORSAIR XMS3 TRI-DDR3 1333Mhz >>> 512MB NVIDIA GFORCE 210 EXPRESS >>> Power Supply CORSAIR 650W PSU (TX650) 80+ ULTRA QUITE >>> Super Quite 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEAT PIPE CPU COOLER >>> 640 GB WD CAVIAR GREEN SATA 3Gb/s 64MB CACHE >>> 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER >>> INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER >>> WINDOWS 7 HOME PREMIUM 64Bit DVD & Licence >>> 3 Year Standard Warranty (i Month Collect & Return) Lifetime Tech >>> Support >>> All packed in The Coolermaster Sileo 500 Super Quiet Case >>> >>> All for a very reasonable £1,362.00 >>> >>> I think this is quite a bit better and more "future proof" than the >>> Red Sub >>> "Extreme Audio Machine" >>> (http://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/Red-Sub-Extreme- >>> Audio-Desktop-Computer/A2N) >>> >>> Ok, it's an extra £200 but you're getting (I think) quite a bit more >>> with it) >>> I'll probably call Red Sub and give them the above spec (pcspecialist) >>> and price and see if they can match it but they told me they don't >>> have those boards and if I'm going to spend that much money I might as >>> well get something that supports USB3 which is where we're all heading >>> no? >>> >>> I know there are a number of people on here who build their own >>> machines and all credit to them but I prefer let someone else pull >>> their graying hair out on my behalf. >>> Cheers >>> Steve >>> >>> >
From: kitekrazy on 9 May 2010 11:29 On 5/8/2010 6:50 PM, Martin Holmes wrote: > On 10-05-08 07:07 AM, kitekrazy wrote: >> On 5/8/2010 8:25 AM, Martin Holmes wrote: >>> If I were building a new box now, I'd use a smallish (64GB?) SSD drive >>> for the OS, and two 2TB drives for data. The SSD would be fast and >>> silent. >>> >> >> You'd be surprised how quickly a 64GB drive would fill up using a 64 bit >> OS. Some apps give no flexibility on where to install data. > > I only put music apps on my DAW, really, and I don't usually bother with > the kind of application that won't let you install it where you want it > to go. I can't think of any that I use or need that are like that. > Seriously, though, 64GB on the OS drive?< W7x64 takes up 20gig. EZ Drummer install EZX on C: with no options for another drive. Not to mention the other things that are installed in apps folders, groove templates and the list goes one. Then there are various VSTs over 200mb. I guess you could start putting stuff that should on an OS drive on another drive but what's the point in that. Sure a 64gb drive might be fine if you run Reaper and a few plugs, but not if you like to run other DAW apps.
From: Phoenix on 10 May 2010 13:34 On Sun, 9 May 2010 08:00:27 -0700 (PDT), Ardcorr <purtington(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Scanuk say their systems can be delivered within 8 days and all > necessary parts are in stock, > I reckon it could take my flatmate that long to source and order them. > Steve You are probably right. I see that on the forum Carillon is also competing for your business ("twaddle" --interesting choice of name change <g>). Get quotes from both them & Scan and post back If you need to; well, post back anyway. You might also want to PM Scott and ask him why Scan is "the only one" he'd trust.
From: Ardcorr on 10 May 2010 14:54
On 10 May, 18:34, Phoenix <rom...(a)gallifrey.kasterborus> wrote: > On Sun, 9 May 2010 08:00:27 -0700 (PDT), Ardcorr > > <purting...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > Scanuk say their systems can be delivered within 8 days and all > > necessary parts are in stock, > > I reckon it could take my flatmate that long to source and order > them. > > Steve > > You are probably right. I see that on the forum Carillon is also > competing for your business ("twaddle" --interesting choice of name > change <g>). Get quotes from both them & Scan and post back If you > need to; well, post back anyway. You might also want to PM Scott > and ask him why Scan is "the only one" he'd trust. Yeah I noticed the touting for business. If their configurator worked (which they say is coming soon I could give you a better picture. Not sure I want a rack mount (that's all they do) as there is a perfect space in my computer desk thing for a tower but a rack mount would be too wide. Details, details and damn details. Steve Right now the best thing they have going for them is the fact that they are in Bristol as am I |