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From: Ardcorr on 7 May 2010 12:06 Hi All I'm thinking of buying a new DAW and am thinking of going elsewhere. I'll explain. For the last 10 years I have used a company which once held a great reputation called "Red Submarine" I've known the guy in the tech department pretty much all that time and he's always been very helpful. A few years back Redsub merged with a company called "Gear4music" and I feel maybe they're not quite what they used to be and thought it was time to have a look at who else was building DAWs but don't seem able to find many. Digital village have something called "synergy" which is extremely over priced (they are selling windows 7 home premium for £179) I thought it was a typo at first as it retails for around £80 here. I did find a company who build computers that are very cheap and very configurable and thus very tempting. They're called "PCspecialist" (http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers/ intel-core-i7-pc/) but because they don't build for musicians only I am a bit doubtful, although they claim to build for musicians, gamers and every one and anyone. I went and configured one of their I7 machines and came up with the following... Intel core''17Processor 17-960(3.20Ghz) 4.8GTs/8mb cache ASUS P6X58D-E: DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, 3-Way SLI 12GB CORSAIR XMS3 TRI-DDR3 1333Mhz 512MB NVIDIA GFORCE 210 EXPRESS Power Supply CORSAIR 650W PSU (TX650) 80+ ULTRA QUITE Super Quite 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEAT PIPE CPU COOLER 640 GB WD CAVIAR GREEN SATA 3Gb/s 64MB CACHE 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER WINDOWS 7 HOME PREMIUM 64Bit DVD & Licence 3 Year Standard Warranty (i Month Collect & Return) Lifetime Tech Support All packed in The Coolermaster Sileo 500 Super Quiet Case All for a very reasonable £1,362.00 I think this is quite a bit better and more "future proof" than the Red Sub "Extreme Audio Machine" (http://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/Red-Sub-Extreme- Audio-Desktop-Computer/A2N) Ok, it's an extra £200 but you're getting (I think) quite a bit more with it) I'll probably call Red Sub and give them the above spec (pcspecialist) and price and see if they can match it but they told me they don't have those boards and if I'm going to spend that much money I might as well get something that supports USB3 which is where we're all heading no? I know there are a number of people on here who build their own machines and all credit to them but I prefer let someone else pull their graying hair out on my behalf. Cheers Steve
From: Phoenix on 7 May 2010 15:37 On Fri, 7 May 2010 09:06:04 -0700 (PDT), Ardcorr <purtington(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi All > I'm thinking of buying a new DAW and am thinking of going elsewhere. > I'll explain. > For the last 10 years I have used a company which once held a great > reputation called > "Red Submarine" I've known the guy in the tech department pretty much > all that time and he's always been very helpful. A few years back > Redsub merged with a company called "Gear4music" and I feel maybe > they're not quite what they used to be and thought it was time to have > a look at who else was building DAWs but don't seem able to find many. > Digital village have something called "synergy" which is extremely > over priced > (they are selling windows 7 home premium for �179) I thought it was a > typo at first as it retails > for around �80 here. > I did find a company who build computers that are very cheap and very > configurable and thus very tempting. > They're called "PCspecialist" (http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers/ > intel-core-i7-pc/) > but because they don't build for musicians only I am a bit doubtful, > although they claim to build for musicians, gamers and every one and > anyone. > I went and configured one of their I7 machines and came up with the > following... > Intel core''17Processor 17-960(3.20Ghz) 4.8GTs/8mb cache > ASUS P6X58D-E: DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, 3-Way SLI > 12GB CORSAIR XMS3 TRI-DDR3 1333Mhz > 512MB NVIDIA GFORCE 210 EXPRESS > Power Supply CORSAIR 650W PSU (TX650) 80+ ULTRA QUITE > Super Quite 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEAT PIPE CPU COOLER > 640 GB WD CAVIAR GREEN SATA 3Gb/s 64MB CACHE > 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER > INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER > WINDOWS 7 HOME PREMIUM 64Bit DVD & Licence > 3 Year Standard Warranty (i Month Collect & Return) Lifetime Tech > Support > All packed in The Coolermaster Sileo 500 Super Quiet Case > All for a very reasonable �1,362.00 > I think this is quite a bit better and more "future proof" than the > Red Sub > "Extreme Audio Machine" > (http://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/Red-Sub-Extreme- > Audio-Desktop-Computer/A2N) > Ok, it's an extra �200 but you're getting (I think) quite a bit more > with it) > I'll probably call Red Sub and give them the above spec (pcspecialist) > and price and see if they can match it but they told me they don't > have those boards and if I'm going to spend that much money I might as > well get something that supports USB3 which is where we're all heading > no? > I know there are a number of people on here who build their own > machines and all credit to them but I prefer let someone else pull > their graying hair out on my behalf. > Cheers > Steve I see Scott from ADK answered your post over on the CW forum. If he recommends a company --with an exclamation point, no less --I'd say it's probably worth checking out. After much thought & research I ended up getting a laptop from ADK (report coming soon, O. Rex!) and they have been a pleasure to deal with. You'll have to see how the prices compare, but if it's close I'd go with a company that *does* build audio PC's cos their tech support would be more familiar with your concerns. -- romana(a)gallifrey.kasterborus
From: Ardcorr on 7 May 2010 18:34 On 7 May, 20:37, Phoenix <f...(a)fakeemail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 7 May 2010 09:06:04 -0700 (PDT), Ardcorr > > <purting...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi All > > I'm thinking of buying a new DAW and am thinking of going elsewhere. > > I'll explain. > > For the last 10 years I have used a company which once held a great > > reputation called > > "Red Submarine" I've known the guy in the tech department pretty > much > > all that time and he's always been very helpful. A few years back > > Redsub merged with a company called "Gear4music" and I feel maybe > > they're not quite what they used to be and thought it was time to > have > > a look at who else was building DAWs but don't seem able to find > many. > > Digital village have something called "synergy" which is extremely > > over priced > > (they are selling windows 7 home premium for £179) I thought it was > a > > typo at first as it retails > > for around £80 here. > > I did find a company who build computers that are very cheap and > very > > configurable and thus very tempting. > > They're called "PCspecialist" > > (http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers/ > > > > > > > intel-core-i7-pc/) > > but because they don't build for musicians only I am a bit doubtful, > > although they claim to build for musicians, gamers and every one and > > anyone. > > I went and configured one of their I7 machines and came up with the > > following... > > Intel core''17Processor 17-960(3.20Ghz) 4.8GTs/8mb cache > > ASUS P6X58D-E: DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, 3-Way SLI > > 12GB CORSAIR XMS3 TRI-DDR3 1333Mhz > > 512MB NVIDIA GFORCE 210 EXPRESS > > Power Supply CORSAIR 650W PSU (TX650) 80+ ULTRA QUITE > > Super Quite 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEAT PIPE CPU COOLER > > 640 GB WD CAVIAR GREEN SATA 3Gb/s 64MB CACHE > > 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER > > INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER > > WINDOWS 7 HOME PREMIUM 64Bit DVD & Licence > > 3 Year Standard Warranty (i Month Collect & Return) Lifetime Tech > > Support > > All packed in The Coolermaster Sileo 500 Super Quiet Case > > All for a very reasonable £1,362.00 > > I think this is quite a bit better and more "future proof" than the > > Red Sub > > "Extreme Audio Machine" > > (http://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/Red-Sub-Extreme- > > Audio-Desktop-Computer/A2N) > > Ok, it's an extra £200 but you're getting (I think) quite a bit more > > with it) > > I'll probably call Red Sub and give them the above spec > (pcspecialist) > > and price and see if they can match it but they told me they don't > > have those boards and if I'm going to spend that much money I might > as > > well get something that supports USB3 which is where we're all > heading > > no? > > I know there are a number of people on here who build their own > > machines and all credit to them but I prefer let someone else pull > > their graying hair out on my behalf. > > Cheers > > Steve > > I see Scott from ADK answered your post over on the CW forum. If he > recommends a company --with an exclamation point, no less --I'd say > it's probably worth checking out. > After much thought & research I ended up getting a laptop from ADK > (report coming soon, O. Rex!) and they have been a pleasure to deal > with. You'll have to see how the prices compare, but if it's close > I'd go with a company that *does* build audio PC's cos their tech > support would be more familiar with your concerns. > > -- > rom...(a)gallifrey.kasterborus Cheers rom (?) I should have mentioned the sites I'd visited as Scanuk was one of them. I just went back and reconfigured a pretty similar system although probably a little better in some ways. http://3xs.scan.co.uk/ConfigureSystem.asp?SystemID=935 price difference is about £250 which isn't quite as bad as I'd first feared. Maybe I should call them on Monday. Cheers Steve
From: John Braner on 8 May 2010 07:19 On 07/05/2010 23:34, Ardcorr wrote: > On 7 May, 20:37, Phoenix<f...(a)fakeemail.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 7 May 2010 09:06:04 -0700 (PDT), Ardcorr >> >> <purting...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >>> Hi All >>> I'm thinking of buying a new DAW and am thinking of going elsewhere. >>> I'll explain. >>> For the last 10 years I have used a company which once held a great >>> reputation called >>> "Red Submarine" I've known the guy in the tech department pretty >> much >>> all that time and he's always been very helpful. A few years back >>> Redsub merged with a company called "Gear4music" and I feel maybe >>> they're not quite what they used to be and thought it was time to >> have >>> a look at who else was building DAWs but don't seem able to find >> many. >>> Digital village have something called "synergy" which is extremely >>> over priced >>> (they are selling windows 7 home premium for �179) I thought it was >> a >>> typo at first as it retails >>> for around �80 here. >>> I did find a company who build computers that are very cheap and >> very >>> configurable and thus very tempting. >>> They're called "PCspecialist" >> >> (http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers/ >> >> >> >> >> >>> intel-core-i7-pc/) >>> but because they don't build for musicians only I am a bit doubtful, >>> although they claim to build for musicians, gamers and every one and >>> anyone. >>> I went and configured one of their I7 machines and came up with the >>> following... >>> Intel core''17Processor 17-960(3.20Ghz) 4.8GTs/8mb cache >>> ASUS P6X58D-E: DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, 3-Way SLI >>> 12GB CORSAIR XMS3 TRI-DDR3 1333Mhz >>> 512MB NVIDIA GFORCE 210 EXPRESS >>> Power Supply CORSAIR 650W PSU (TX650) 80+ ULTRA QUITE >>> Super Quite 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEAT PIPE CPU COOLER >>> 640 GB WD CAVIAR GREEN SATA 3Gb/s 64MB CACHE >>> 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER >>> INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER >>> WINDOWS 7 HOME PREMIUM 64Bit DVD& Licence >>> 3 Year Standard Warranty (i Month Collect& Return) Lifetime Tech >>> Support >>> All packed in The Coolermaster Sileo 500 Super Quiet Case >>> All for a very reasonable �1,362.00 >>> I think this is quite a bit better and more "future proof" than the >>> Red Sub >>> "Extreme Audio Machine" >>> (http://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/Red-Sub-Extreme- >>> Audio-Desktop-Computer/A2N) >>> Ok, it's an extra �200 but you're getting (I think) quite a bit more >>> with it) >>> I'll probably call Red Sub and give them the above spec >> (pcspecialist) >>> and price and see if they can match it but they told me they don't >>> have those boards and if I'm going to spend that much money I might >> as >>> well get something that supports USB3 which is where we're all >> heading >>> no? >>> I know there are a number of people on here who build their own >>> machines and all credit to them but I prefer let someone else pull >>> their graying hair out on my behalf. >>> Cheers >>> Steve >> >> I see Scott from ADK answered your post over on the CW forum. If he >> recommends a company --with an exclamation point, no less --I'd say >> it's probably worth checking out. >> After much thought& research I ended up getting a laptop from ADK >> (report coming soon, O. Rex!) and they have been a pleasure to deal >> with. You'll have to see how the prices compare, but if it's close >> I'd go with a company that *does* build audio PC's cos their tech >> support would be more familiar with your concerns. >> >> -- >> rom...(a)gallifrey.kasterborus > > Cheers rom (?) > I should have mentioned the sites I'd visited as Scanuk was one of > them. > I just went back and reconfigured a pretty similar system although > probably a little better in some ways. > > http://3xs.scan.co.uk/ConfigureSystem.asp?SystemID=935 > > price difference is about �250 which isn't quite as bad as I'd first > feared. > Maybe I should call them on Monday. > > Cheers > Steve Have a look through Sound on Sound magazine, as they have ads from the different companies. Off the top of my head, I think there's another one called "Inta audio" or something like that. I build my own, so I don't pay *that* much attention to these ads. rgds, -- =========== John Braner jbraner(a)NOblueyonderSPAM.co.uk http://cdbaby.com/cd/JohnBraner http://www.soundclick.com/johnbraner
From: Martin Holmes on 8 May 2010 09:25
If I were building a new box now, I'd use a smallish (64GB?) SSD drive for the OS, and two 2TB drives for data. The SSD would be fast and silent. An approach I find works well is to put the DAW software, samples etc. all on one drive, and my projects all on the other, then back them up to each other using Robocopy at the end of every session. That gives me local duplicates both of the Sonar setup and the project data. The SSD could also be fully backed up to one or both of the HDs. (I use an external NAS as well, of course.) Cheers, Martin Ardcorr wrote: > Hi All > I'm thinking of buying a new DAW and am thinking of going elsewhere. > I'll explain. > For the last 10 years I have used a company which once held a great > reputation called > "Red Submarine" I've known the guy in the tech department pretty much > all that time and he's always been very helpful. A few years back > Redsub merged with a company called "Gear4music" and I feel maybe > they're not quite what they used to be and thought it was time to have > a look at who else was building DAWs but don't seem able to find many. > Digital village have something called "synergy" which is extremely > over priced > (they are selling windows 7 home premium for £179) I thought it was a > typo at first as it retails > for around £80 here. > I did find a company who build computers that are very cheap and very > configurable and thus very tempting. > They're called "PCspecialist" (http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers/ > intel-core-i7-pc/) > but because they don't build for musicians only I am a bit doubtful, > although they claim to build for musicians, gamers and every one and > anyone. > I went and configured one of their I7 machines and came up with the > following... > > Intel core''17Processor 17-960(3.20Ghz) 4.8GTs/8mb cache > ASUS P6X58D-E: DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, 3-Way SLI > 12GB CORSAIR XMS3 TRI-DDR3 1333Mhz > 512MB NVIDIA GFORCE 210 EXPRESS > Power Supply CORSAIR 650W PSU (TX650) 80+ ULTRA QUITE > Super Quite 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEAT PIPE CPU COOLER > 640 GB WD CAVIAR GREEN SATA 3Gb/s 64MB CACHE > 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER > INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER > WINDOWS 7 HOME PREMIUM 64Bit DVD & Licence > 3 Year Standard Warranty (i Month Collect & Return) Lifetime Tech > Support > All packed in The Coolermaster Sileo 500 Super Quiet Case > > All for a very reasonable £1,362.00 > > I think this is quite a bit better and more "future proof" than the > Red Sub > "Extreme Audio Machine" > (http://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/Red-Sub-Extreme- > Audio-Desktop-Computer/A2N) > > Ok, it's an extra £200 but you're getting (I think) quite a bit more > with it) > I'll probably call Red Sub and give them the above spec (pcspecialist) > and price and see if they can match it but they told me they don't > have those boards and if I'm going to spend that much money I might as > well get something that supports USB3 which is where we're all heading > no? > > I know there are a number of people on here who build their own > machines and all credit to them but I prefer let someone else pull > their graying hair out on my behalf. > Cheers > Steve > > |