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From: Erik Richard Sørensen on 3 Jun 2010 02:53

nospam wrote:
> D Finnigan <dog_cow(a)macgui.com> wrote:
>> I just got ahold of a blue & white G3 yesterday, and am soliciting some
>> advice as to what system would be most optimal for it.
>>
>> Here are the specs:
>> - Rev 1 motherboard
>> - 400 Mhz
>> - 40 GB HD
>> - 384 MB RAM
>> - Zip 100
>> - DVD-ROM drive
>>
>> Right now, I've got OS 10.2.8. I'm also considering over-clocking it to 450
>> MHz.
>>
>> I'd like the OS which will run most efficiently on the G3. It won't be used
>> to do anything "intense" where a newer machine would be better, it's just
>> going to be mostly for older games and other light work.
>>
>> 10.2 and 10.4 are the only two options, as those are the only two OS X
>> install disc sets that I have.
>
> 10.4 is not going to work well on that, if it does at all. 10.3 would
> be ideal, but if you don't have that option, 10.2. unfortunately,
> there's not much software that will still run on 10.2.
>
> you might even consider os 9, which will be worlds faster than os x
> anything.

That isnot correct. The B&W will indeed run 10.4.x, but with 384mb of
memory it will be slow. But with 1gb (max.) it will be very very fast -
even with the only 400mhz!

Cheers, Erik Richard

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From: Jamie Kahn Genet on 6 Jun 2010 01:07
D Finnigan <dog_cow(a)macgui.com> wrote:

> I just got ahold of a blue & white G3 yesterday, and am soliciting some
> advice as to what system would be most optimal for it.
>
> Here are the specs:
> - Rev 1 motherboard
> - 400 Mhz
> - 40 GB HD
> - 384 MB RAM
> - Zip 100
> - DVD-ROM drive
>
> Right now, I've got OS 10.2.8. I'm also considering over-clocking it to 450
> MHz.
>
> I'd like the OS which will run most efficiently on the G3. It won't be used
> to do anything "intense" where a newer machine would be better, it's just
> going to be mostly for older games and other light work.
>
> 10.2 and 10.4 are the only two options, as those are the only two OS X
> install disc sets that I have.

Pity as 10.3.9 would have been my pick. I ran it on a couple G3 CRT
iMacs for years. Are you sure 10.4 will even run on that system? If it
will, do so. 10.2 was usable, but slower on older hardware than 10.3 and
10.4 IME.
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From: D Finnigan on 6 Jun 2010 12:56
Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>
> Are you sure 10.4 will even run on that system?
>

Are you asking about G3 Macs in general? If so, then I've got another G3
with similar specs (450 Mhz, 320 MB, 80 GB) with 10.4.x on it. Doesn't seem
too slow to me, but maybe I can't tell the difference.

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From: Erik Richard Sørensen on 8 Jun 2010 21:03

D Finnigan wrote:
> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>> Are you sure 10.4 will even run on that system?
>
> Are you asking about G3 Macs in general? If so, then I've got another G3
> with similar specs (450 Mhz, 320 MB, 80 GB) with 10.4.x on it. Doesn't seem
> too slow to me, but maybe I can't tell the difference.

It can be said as easy as this... Mac OS X 10.4.x requires an onboard
Firewire 400 connection to be able to be installed. No processor limit,
but at least 256mb of physically memory - preferable 512mb or more.

I have run OS X 10.4.6 on a 300mhz B&W G3 with just 320mb RAM and a 20gb
harddisk. It worked just fine...

Cheers, Erik Richard

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From: D Finnigan on 14 Jun 2010 12:51
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
>
> http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/software/HDcorruption_test.sit
>
> Please report back your results.
>

Results:

The G3 does not like this 40 GB drive! :-0

After I formatted it with the OS 10.2 Installer Disk Utility, the
installation bombed after about 5 minutes. I got a black screen stating that
an error occurred, asking me to restart the system. I repeated the process,
and got the same result.

Trying to install OS 9.1 also resulted in a crash.

However, and this is the weird thing, when I booted OS 9 from the CD and ran
the HD corruption test, no failures were reported! I did 5 test iterations
with 2 verification passes and a 2047 MB file.

So it looks like this disk won't work on this G3, which is a shame, because
I wanted a bigger HD in it. But at least I can use the disk in another
machine, so it's not a complete loss. I only paid $6 total for it. :-)

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