From: nospam on 18 Apr 2010 18:06 In article <6d5e70de-62ed-4bec-967b-b0ddcecb6c47(a)j17g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, sobriquet <dohduhdah(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Yes, like every other product basically. But some companies tend to > restrict > the functionality of their products rather severely and unnecessarily. some do, and they don't usually sell very well. strangely enough, the ipod has over 70% of the market. maybe it's not as restricted as you think it is. > A good example is the CHDK firmware hack that allows you to > dramatically > expand the functionality of Canon powershot camera's. > > But iPods have always been famous for forcing users to use iTunes > while other mp3 > players work more like a usb drive with no restrictions on being > allowed to copy > mp3s freely. using itunes *adds* functionality, not restricts it. > It's not like all portable devices are crippled in this respect, but > some companies > like Apple go to great lengths to seriously impair the functionality > of their devices whenever corporate interests might motivate them to > do so. once again, using itunes does not cripple it, it makes it more flexible and much easier to use.
From: sobriquet on 18 Apr 2010 18:39 On 18 apr, 23:55, Robert Spanjaard <spamt...(a)arumes.com> wrote: > On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:44:26 -0700, sobriquet wrote: > >> That's right. Technically, a modern dishwasher is a computer. A modern > >> refrigerator is a computer. But most people don't want these to be as > >> functional (and _complex_) as a 'real' computer. The iPhone does what > >> it's designed to do, and does it well. > > > The iPhone does what Apple allows it to do and Apple isn't very open > > minded about > > what kind of functionality their users might enjoy. > > And considering its success, that's what the users want. > > If you want to steer the discussion towards freedom: Apple has the freedom > to limit the iPhone's features. People who don't like what Apple is doing, > have the freedom to buy something else. > > -- > Regards, Robert http://www.arumes.com Right.. Apple has every right to produce and sell garbage.. I'm all for freedom. But my advice turned out to be justified, judging from the funny responses I get from iPhone users who claim they are not even interested in multitasking as a feature on their toy phone. Avoid Apple like the plague if you are serious about mobile information technology. Just look at how long it took Apple to realize DRM is a dead end. :-))
From: nospam on 18 Apr 2010 18:52 In article <8ffdffd4-6143-40d7-b641-b6b52753f041(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, sobriquet <dohduhdah(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Right.. Apple has every right to produce and sell garbage.. I'm all > for freedom. given that they own the market for mp3 players, very few people think it's garbage. > But my advice turned out to be justified, judging from the funny > responses > I get from iPhone users who claim they are not even interested in > multitasking as a feature on their toy phone. nobody said that. > Avoid Apple like the plague if you are serious about mobile > information technology. wrong. > > Just look at how long it took Apple to realize DRM is a dead end. :-)) they've *always* had that position. the record companies forced them. why don't you slam microsoft for their 'plays for sure' drm which was *discontinued* screwing people who bought content.
From: sobriquet on 18 Apr 2010 18:55 On 19 apr, 00:06, nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article > <6d5e70de-62ed-4bec-967b-b0ddcecb6...(a)j17g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, > > sobriquet <dohduh...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Yes, like every other product basically. But some companies tend to > > restrict > > the functionality of their products rather severely and unnecessarily. > > some do, and they don't usually sell very well. strangely enough, the > ipod has over 70% of the market. maybe it's not as restricted as you > think it is. It just goes to show that even garbage can be widely sold with a slick marketing campaign. Besides, in some respects Apple software like OS-X is indeed quality compared to windows, which is garbage. But windows still has the biggest market share (probably also because Apple is rather pricey and has an exclusive style that appeals to wealthy people). Also, Apple computers look pretty slick in terms of design, but judging from stories of people who had issues with broken Apple computers, I doubt that there is a great deal of high quality components under the hood compared to a typical windows computer (dell, HP or whatever). These days with Apple using intel CPU's, it doesn't really matter anymore since you can run both windows and os-X side by side on the same computer and enjoy the best of both worlds. > > > A good example is the CHDK firmware hack that allows you to > > dramatically > > expand the functionality of Canon powershot camera's. > > > But iPods have always been famous for forcing users to use iTunes > > while other mp3 > > players work more like a usb drive with no restrictions on being > > allowed to copy > > mp3s freely. > > using itunes *adds* functionality, not restricts it. Right.. why would you want the plug-n-play functionality of a generic mass storage device like an usb stick when you could be forced to have some stupid application installed. If you go to acquaintances and they happen to have a PC instead of a MAC, if you had a normal mp3 player, you could simply connect it and start to exchange music or audiobooks or even arbitrary files. But because of having an iPod, you would first need to convince that PC user to install some lousy iTunes application on their PC (unless you'd be using a hacked iPod perhaps). > > > It's not like all portable devices are crippled in this respect, but > > some companies > > like Apple go to great lengths to seriously impair the functionality > > of their devices whenever corporate interests might motivate them to > > do so. > > once again, using itunes does not cripple it, it makes it more flexible > and much easier to use. Right.. so flexible and so easy that Apple has finally decided to give up on DRM. Apple users are hilarious.
From: Savageduck on 18 Apr 2010 18:56
On 2010-04-18 15:01:57 -0700, sobriquet <dohduhdah(a)yahoo.com> said: > On 18 apr, 23:49, nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >> In article >> <9a6c7306-9ec3-4b00-a238-ef4df5c41...(a)5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, >> >> sobriquet <dohduh...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> The iPhone does what Apple allows it to do and Apple isn't very open >>> minded about >>> what kind of functionality their users might enjoy. >> >> you mean like every other product? >> >> this is a photo group, what about the features nikon left out on the >> entry level cameras? what, no 51 point autofocus on the d3000? oh no. > > Yes, like every other product basically. But some companies tend to > restrict > the functionality of their products rather severely and unnecessarily. > > A good example is the CHDK firmware hack that allows you to > dramatically > expand the functionality of Canon powershot camera's. > > But iPods have always been famous for forcing users to use iTunes > while other mp3 > players work more like a usb drive with no restrictions on being > allowed to copy > mp3s freely. > It's not like all portable devices are crippled in this respect, but > some companies > like Apple go to great lengths to seriously impair the functionality > of their devices whenever corporate interests might motivate them to > do so. You obviously are unaware that other than being Apple's proprietary media player, iTunes is also the interface between the iPod (& iPhone) and computer. (that can be Mac or Windows machine) iTunes and the iPod have not trouble handling mp3, AAC, AIFF, Apple Lossless, & WAV files. I can down load and import MP3 files into itunes and load them into my iPod without any issue. The iPod can also be used as a USB (Firewire for the older versions) harddrive for storage of any file you might choose to keep there. iTunes & iPod have no problem dealing with Audible Books proprietary files, or those non-mp3 files from some of the other audiobook publishers. Now, what is your problem? -- Regards, Savageduck |