From: C J Campbell on 10 Apr 2010 11:51 On 2010-04-09 22:07:51 -0700, John A. <john(a)nowhere.invalid> said: > On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:52:49 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> > wrote: > >> In article <o500s5h7ri981gc7sdn6ks7u0ri0siv1vj(a)4ax.com>, John A. >> <john(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >> >>> The fact that you work it with your fingers instead of a stylus or a >>> mouse & keyboard doesn't make it fundamentally different. It's just a >>> detail of the UI design. >> >> it makes it very different. > > It makes the UI different. Replace a truck's steering wheel and pedals > with a couple joysticks and you've got a very different driving > experience, but it's still a truck. If the interface was really unimportant, we could just go back to entering 1s and 0s using buttons, paper tape, or punch cards. Who needs frills like a screen or printer when you can just read the holes on a paper tape? -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor
From: nospam on 10 Apr 2010 12:12 In article <hpq5i40pk8(a)news7.newsguy.com>, J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote: > > an ipad runs a different os than what's on a desktop, with different > > apps designed for touch. it's not a laptop without a keyboard. > > So what? it's a different product category.
From: nospam on 10 Apr 2010 12:12 In article <hpq5i52pk7(a)news7.newsguy.com>, J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote: > >> Other than the form factor and UI, what is fundamentally different > >> about it? Other than running a different OS in order to support the > >> form factor and UI, what is the difference between it and a laptop? > > > > it's an entirely different product category that does some of the same > > things as a traditional computer but with touch. the user experience is > > very different. it also does a number of things that are difficult or > > impossible on a desktop or laptop computer. > > Name one. how about four: location aware apps that use the gps and compass, immersive games that use the accelerometer, a touch interface that's not slapped onto a desktop os and a 3g radio with a no-contract data plan that's significantly cheaper than what's available for laptops.
From: C J Campbell on 10 Apr 2010 12:20 On 2010-04-10 08:19:56 -0700, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> said: > On 4/10/2010 10:16 AM, nospam wrote: >> In article<pf20s5hsabmvmqq9itm79ndionkgha66iv(a)4ax.com>, John A. >> <john(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >> >>> Other than the form factor and UI, what is fundamentally different >>> about it? Other than running a different OS in order to support the >>> form factor and UI, what is the difference between it and a laptop? >> >> it's an entirely different product category that does some of the same >> things as a traditional computer but with touch. the user experience is >> very different. it also does a number of things that are difficult or >> impossible on a desktop or laptop computer. > > Name one. Far more portable than either, being thinner and lighter and having no ungainly protrusions. Apparently it is the form factor itself which has been praised by most reviewers. Screen is right side up no matter the display orientation. It may seem unimportant but it certainly impresses potential customers who have been viewing my portfolio on my iPhone. The iPad would be even better for this. Look, we are photographers. And Rita's practical jokes aside, we are mostly pretty good photographers. The only thing we have to sell that differentiates us from one another is image -- and in the image business, image is everything. If I want to show clients some photos, I have several options. I can take a projector over to their place and, with a great deal of fuss and bother and cables and rearranging furniture and removing things from the wall, project pictures on a, um, yellow background. I can hang a sheet up. Yeah, that looks professional. Or I can take a laptop. I can set it up on the dining room table and everyone can crowd around and look at it while I try to work the keyboard and stuff. You don't get many jobs by inflicting physical pain on your customers. Or I can use an iPad. I can pull it out pretty much wherever I am, like a business card. I find the picture I want, flip the pad over for the bride or new mother and her friends to see and they go all giggles over it. They can take it from me and, without any training whatsoever, hand it around, browse through the pictures themselves, and so forth. Try that with a laptop. I think the iPad is possibly the greatest presentation device to come along in decades. It is a step far beyond table bound laptops and desktops. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor
From: Ray Fischer on 10 Apr 2010 14:25
Stuffed Crust <pizza(a)spam.shaftnet.org> wrote: >C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> It is really funny. This is like the people who keep insisting that OS >> X does not support true 64 bit processing. It is the old "moving the >> goal posts" fallacy. Apple adds multitasking, then say it is not "true" >> multitasking. > >Yes, OSX didn't support native 64-bit processing in userspace until Snow >Leopoard's release. Apple trumpeted this as one of its big new features. >(See http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/#sixtyfourbit) You didn't read that carefully enough. They say that specific applications have been made 64-bit, not that the OS was changed. -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net |