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From: SC Tom on 17 Mar 2010 18:37 "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake(a)this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:iie2q556k2ht4l7g6p14vk157ua5d8dpss(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:23:07 -0400, "SC Tom" <sc(a)tom.net> wrote: > >> >> "LD55ZRA" <LD55ZRA(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:hnpnf4$u03$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >> > Clean install always takes less time than upgrade install and in >> > Windows 7 >> > this is crucial unless you want to spend whole weekend doing it. >> > >> > hth >> >> That's not necessarily true. > > > Right, it's hardly ever true. > > >> Took me 45 minutes to upgrade from Vista to >> Win7. I've done clean installs of Win2k and XP that took way longer than >> that since you have to consider that with a clean install, you have to >> reinstall all of your other programs after the OS installation. > > > Exactly! And not only do you have to reinstall them, in many cases you > also have to reconfigure them to the way you like them. > > >> Add that time up and it's a lot more than a simple upgrade. > > > > *Much* longer. It depends on how many and what programs you have > installed, and to what extent you've configured them, but it can > easily take a few days. And unlike doing an upgrade installation, > which essentially runs by itself with almost no attention from you, > all the program installation and configuration requires your > attention. > > My Windows 7 installation on my main desktop computer here would > easily take me 2-3 days to reinstall cleanly and put back the way it > is. And that's 2-3 days of pretty much constant attention. > > >> I haven't done an >> Xp-Vista-Win7 upgrade, but I can't imagine it being more than a leisurely >> evening to do if the installer has checked to make sure his hardware and >> software is compatible with both Vista and Win7. > > > > I have. I did that with my netbook, more as an experiment than > anything else. Since I use it for e-mail while traveling and very > little else, I didn't really care very much what version of Windows it > was running. But because to do it I had to go to Vista, then SP1 of > Vista, then Windows 7, and it was done on a slow machine, it took the > better part of two days. > > However, despite its taking two days, it mostly did what it did by > itself and took very little attention from me. So the two days really > didn't bother me at all. If I had done it by doing a clean > installation of Windows 7, it probably would have taken about the same > two days (that's about what it took when I first installed and > configured all the apps on it under Windows XP), but it would have > been two days that kept me very busy. > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 > Please Reply to the Newsgroup I've been putting off upgrading from XP to Win7 for that very reason. I've had XP on this PC since XP was released to the public, and I've installed a lot of programs since then. Granted, a lot of them are not used much, if at all, any more, but there are a number of ones I do use that I don't have the installation files for, and probably not the registration codes either. They're all legal, but with moving/cleaning/getting rid of old stuff, I just don't have everything that I bought over the years. Aside from the fact that I don't have a Vista install disk or another Win7 one, and I really don't want to put out the bucks to upgrade an OS I'm perfectly happy with. I guess sometime between now and 2014 I'll have to do something :-) -- SC Tom
From: LD5SZRA on 17 Mar 2010 22:59 "SC Tom" <sc(a)tom.net> wrote in message news:OctZsJixKHA.4232(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > I guess sometime between now and 2014 I'll have to do something :-) You have to ask Ken Blake [MVP] to steal your system so that you can claim insurance money! He has a learnt a thing or two from Microsoft which specialises in pirating people's patents! http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9171878/Microsoft_loses_106M_patent_verdict_to_VirnetX Microsoft have an army of pirates working for nothing called MVPs to indicate Most Valuable Pirates. hth
From: Ken Blake, MVP on 18 Mar 2010 00:29 On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:59:25 -0000, "LD5SZRA" <LD5SZRA(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > "SC Tom" <sc(a)tom.net> wrote in message > news:OctZsJixKHA.4232(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > > > I guess sometime between now and 2014 I'll have to do something :-) > > You have to ask Ken Blake [MVP] to steal your system so that you can claim > insurance money! He has a learnt a thing or two from Microsoft which > specialises in pirating people's patents! > > http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9171878/Microsoft_loses_106M_patent_verdict_to_VirnetX > > Microsoft have an army of pirates working for nothing called MVPs to > indicate Most Valuable Pirates. Another example of the troll changing his persona to escape our killfiles. No problem; I'll put you back in. Ken -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 Please Reply to the Newsgroup
From: Unknown on 18 Mar 2010 11:07 You don't think the OS needs backing up??? When your internal drive goes bad you'll wish you backed up everything. "Terry Heinz" <no-emails(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:hnsc7e$vjq$1(a)news.datemas.de... > On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:37:27 -0400, SC Tom wrote: > >>"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake(a)this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message >>news:iie2q556k2ht4l7g6p14vk157ua5d8dpss(a)4ax.com... >>> I have. I did that with my netbook, more as an experiment than >>> anything else. Since I use it for e-mail while traveling and very >>> little else, I didn't really care very much what version of Windows it >>> was running. But because to do it I had to go to Vista, then SP1 of >>> Vista, then Windows 7, and it was done on a slow machine, it took the >>> better part of two days. >>> >>> However, despite its taking two days, it mostly did what it did by >>> itself and took very little attention from me. So the two days really >>> didn't bother me at all. If I had done it by doing a clean >>> installation of Windows 7, it probably would have taken about the same >>> two days (that's about what it took when I first installed and >>> configured all the apps on it under Windows XP), but it would have >>> been two days that kept me very busy. >> >>I've been putting off upgrading from XP to Win7 for that very reason. I've >>had XP on this PC since XP was released to the public, and I've installed >>a >>lot of programs since then. Granted, a lot of them are not used much, if >>at >>all, any more, but there are a number of ones I do use that I don't have >>the >>installation files for, and probably not the registration codes either. > > See my comments following: D:\Archives, D:\Attic. > >>They're all legal, but with moving/cleaning/getting rid of old stuff, I >>just >>don't have everything that I bought over the years. >>Aside from the fact that I don't have a Vista install disk or another Win7 >>one, and I really don't want to put out the bucks to upgrade an OS I'm >>perfectly happy with. I guess sometime between now and 2014 I'll have to >>do >>something :-) > > I went from Win XP to Win 7 by formatting my C: drive and installing Win > 7, > but it wasn't too painful for me. ;-) > > My hard drive is partitioned into C: D: E: drives, I install the > operating > system to C: but most other programs I use are installed to D: drive. > I have a large Music library which is stored on E: drive. > > To put it another way: > 1. If it doesn't need backing up it's installed on C: drive. > 2. If it needs backing up it's installed on D: drive. > 3. Music needs backing up so it's stored on E: drive. > > That reduces the amount of configuration that needs to be done after the > reinstallation of the operating system. Agent, Eudora, Opera and many > other > programs don't always need to be reinstalled, sometimes you can just > create > a new shortcut that when you click in it the program fires up. > > "My Documents" doesn't exist on my computer by that name, but a large > amount of documents are saved at D:\Archives. :-) > > I vaguely recollect a C:\"download folder" but my downloads automatically > go to D:\Attic. > -- > > Terry Heinz.
From: SC Tom on 19 Mar 2010 06:53
"Terry Heinz" <no-emails(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:hnv4l3$2ip$1(a)news.datemas.de... > On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:07:47 -0500, Unknown wrote: > >>You don't think the OS needs backing up??? When your internal drive goes >>bad >>you'll wish you backed up everything. > > If I had a backup of my OS and the internal drive goes bad what use would > the backup be to me. > > There is nothing on C: that needs to be backed up. > I would need to replace the internal drive and reinstall the operating > system. > > All my valuable data is on D: & E: drive and is carefully backed up. > > It'd be handy in future before you reply to a post, you first read it. > -- > > Terry Heinz. That's why I use a good imaging program. When the HDD in my notebook crashed, I was back up and running in less than an hour with everything the same as it was at the last image, no reinstallation of anything. By imaging to an external drive, I also eliminate the possibility of destruction of the backup on an internal drive by malware, lightning strike, etc. You may have your programs installed on your D: drive, but if you C: drive crashes, odds are when you reinstall your OS, you'll have to reinstall some of those programs also since almost every Windows program writes files and registry entries to the OS. If you have to format a new drive and reinstall the OS, all of that is lost and the programs won't run. Much easier to image it and not have to go through all that, IMHO :-) -- SC Tom |