From: Michael A. Terrell on

stratus46(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>
> On Oct 10, 11:14 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...(a)earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> > stratu...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > On Oct 9, 11:38 pm, Greegor <greego...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Beta sucked. I preferred U-matic or 1" broadcast video tape. No
> > > > > surprise that you chose the losing format.
> >
> > > > You preferred an analog format to a digital format?
> > > > You must have REALLY loved open reel video tape then!
> >
> > > > In what capacity were you exposed to these?
> >
> > > I believe Michael was trying to stay in the same general time frame by
> > > mentioning U-Mats and 1" C. Digital machines came a few years later.
> >
> > > Today I was working on a 1" C machine, earlier this week an AVR-1 quad
> > > machine and a Beta SP. There are still some dinosaurs.
> >
> > The old 2" Ampex machines had a decent video quality for an all
> > analog format, but a 1" VTR with a good TBC was excellent. I had three,
> > with TBCs and a good editing system at WACX in Orlando. Used with the
> > RCA TK-46 cameras, the in house video quality was better than what I've
> > seen of OTA HD. Of course, I was watching it on a $7,000 monitor with
> > the original triangular RGB CRT. All the other color monitors were
> > trinitron CRTS, and didn't have the same quality of video. By the time
> > it was sent to the transmitter on a 7 GHz microwave STL and transmitted
> > to crappy consumer TVs, most of the quality was lost.
> >
> > --
> > The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
>
> Then you might have enjoyed the AVR-3 which was still a quad but with
> a digital TBC. Put it in Super High Band Pilot and have zero velocity
> error as 1.5 SC is recorded with the video - analog equivalent of
> digital clock. The place with the AVR-1s gave away the AVR-3s last
> Christmas - before I worked there. 2 weeks ago my boss asked if we
> could play a Super High Band Pilot tape and I told him they gave away
> the machines.


I left the industry about 20 years ago, so I missed a lot of the
interesting equipment. :(

I did get to use the Vital Industries Squeeze Zoom, and video
switcher. It was one of the first digital Special Effects systems built
in the '80s. :)

The only commercial Video Tape equipment I worked with were '60s
vintage Ampex 2" at Ft Rucker, Alabama. They were being replaced by the
Sony/tektronics U-matics in 1973.

I only had 16 mm film and 35 mm slide projectors at the
AFRTS/AFRN/AFN station at Ft Greely Alaska. it was probably the last B&W
only station in the US.

Sony U-matic (In a LaCart automation system) and 1" Sony were used at
WIYE/WACX in Orlando.


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The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
From: Greegor on
MT > Beta sucked.  I preferred U-matic or 1" broadcast video tape.  No
MT > surprise that you chose the losing format.

G > You preferred an analog format to a digital format?
G > You must have REALLY loved open reel video tape then!
G >
G > In what capacity were you exposed to these?

MT >    I was a TV broadcast engineer.  When I started, a VTR still
used 2"
MT > tape.  U-matic was just showing up at the US Army bases for their
ETV
MT > systems.  It had a tektronix nameplate, but was built by Sony.
 There
MT > was no digital storage at that time, so your comment is moot.

Did you buy a Blue Ray player? LOL
Does it make you pine for the Pioneer Laser Disk player?

From: Michael A. Terrell on

Greegor wrote:
>
> MT > Beta sucked. I preferred U-matic or 1" broadcast video tape. No
> MT > surprise that you chose the losing format.
>
> G > You preferred an analog format to a digital format?
> G > You must have REALLY loved open reel video tape then!
> G >
> G > In what capacity were you exposed to these?
>
> MT > I was a TV broadcast engineer. When I started, a VTR still
> used 2"
> MT > tape. U-matic was just showing up at the US Army bases for their
> ETV
> MT > systems. It had a tektronix nameplate, but was built by Sony.
> There
> MT > was no digital storage at that time, so your comment is moot.
>
> Did you buy a Blue Ray player? LOL


No. Why should I?


> Does it make you pine for the Pioneer Laser Disk player?


No. Does anyone need a demo disk?


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The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!