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From: Greegor on 10 Oct 2009 02:38 > Beta sucked. I preferred U-matic or 1" broadcast video tape. No > surprise that you chose the losing format. You preferred an analog format to a digital format? You must have REALLY loved open reel video tape then! In what capacity were you exposed to these?
From: stratus46 on 10 Oct 2009 03:55 On Oct 9, 11:38 pm, Greegor <greego...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Beta sucked. I preferred U-matic or 1" broadcast video tape. No > > surprise that you chose the losing format. > > You preferred an analog format to a digital format? > You must have REALLY loved open reel video tape then! > > In what capacity were you exposed to these? I believe Michael was trying to stay in the same general time frame by mentioning U-Mats and 1" C. Digital machines came a few years later. Today I was working on a 1" C machine, earlier this week an AVR-1 quad machine and a Beta SP. There are still some dinosaurs. G²
From: Michael A. Terrell on 11 Oct 2009 02:07 Greegor wrote: > > > Beta sucked. I preferred U-matic or 1" broadcast video tape. No > > surprise that you chose the losing format. > > You preferred an analog format to a digital format? > You must have REALLY loved open reel video tape then! > > In what capacity were you exposed to these? I was a TV broadcast engineer. When I started, a VTR still used 2" tape. U-matic was just showing up at the US Army bases for their ETV systems. It had a tektronix nameplate, but was built by Sony. There was no digital storage at that time, so your comment is moot. -- The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
From: Michael A. Terrell on 11 Oct 2009 02:14 stratus46(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > On Oct 9, 11:38 pm, Greegor <greego...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Beta sucked. I preferred U-matic or 1" broadcast video tape. No > > > surprise that you chose the losing format. > > > > You preferred an analog format to a digital format? > > You must have REALLY loved open reel video tape then! > > > > In what capacity were you exposed to these? > > I believe Michael was trying to stay in the same general time frame by > mentioning U-Mats and 1" C. Digital machines came a few years later. > > Today I was working on a 1" C machine, earlier this week an AVR-1 quad > machine and a Beta SP. There are still some dinosaurs. The old 2" Ampex machines had a decent video quality for an all analog format, but a 1" VTR with a good TBC was excellent. I had three, with TBCs and a good editing system at WACX in Orlando. Used with the RCA TK-46 cameras, the in house video quality was better than what I've seen of OTA HD. Of course, I was watching it on a $7,000 monitor with the original triangular RGB CRT. All the other color monitors were trinitron CRTS, and didn't have the same quality of video. By the time it was sent to the transmitter on a 7 GHz microwave STL and transmitted to crappy consumer TVs, most of the quality was lost. -- The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
From: stratus46 on 11 Oct 2009 13:34
On Oct 10, 11:14 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > stratu...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > > On Oct 9, 11:38 pm, Greegor <greego...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Beta sucked. I preferred U-matic or 1" broadcast video tape. No > > > > surprise that you chose the losing format. > > > > You preferred an analog format to a digital format? > > > You must have REALLY loved open reel video tape then! > > > > In what capacity were you exposed to these? > > > I believe Michael was trying to stay in the same general time frame by > > mentioning U-Mats and 1" C. Digital machines came a few years later. > > > Today I was working on a 1" C machine, earlier this week an AVR-1 quad > > machine and a Beta SP. There are still some dinosaurs. > > The old 2" Ampex machines had a decent video quality for an all > analog format, but a 1" VTR with a good TBC was excellent. I had three, > with TBCs and a good editing system at WACX in Orlando. Used with the > RCA TK-46 cameras, the in house video quality was better than what I've > seen of OTA HD. Of course, I was watching it on a $7,000 monitor with > the original triangular RGB CRT. All the other color monitors were > trinitron CRTS, and didn't have the same quality of video. By the time > it was sent to the transmitter on a 7 GHz microwave STL and transmitted > to crappy consumer TVs, most of the quality was lost. > > -- > The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary! Then you might have enjoyed the AVR-3 which was still a quad but with a digital TBC. Put it in Super High Band Pilot and have zero velocity error as 1.5 SC is recorded with the video - analog equivalent of digital clock. The place with the AVR-1s gave away the AVR-3s last Christmas - before I worked there. 2 weeks ago my boss asked if we could play a Super High Band Pilot tape and I told him they gave away the machines. G² |