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From: Dave on 21 Dec 2009 00:53 How can one tell if one has the optimum setup for biasing a bipolar transistor, while it's still all on paper? There must be a way, I just don't know what it is, and am thinking that it's not necessary to build the damn thing every time to *see* if it works. Many thanks, Dave
From: Jasen Betts on 21 Dec 2009 03:15 On 2009-12-21, Dave <db5151(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > How can one tell if one has the optimum setup for biasing a bipolar > transistor, while it's still all on paper? There must be a way, applied algebra. V_be = constant I_e = -Ib * H_fe
From: pimpom on 21 Dec 2009 06:26 Dave wrote: > How can one tell if one has the optimum setup for biasing a bipolar > transistor, while it's still all on paper? There must be a way, I > just don't know what it is, and am thinking that it's not necessary > to build the damn thing every time to *see* if it works. > The question must first be asked: optimum in what respect? There are several factors that may influence the choice of biasing circuit. E.g., - - stability with variations in temperature - stability with variations in power supply - stability with variations in transistor characteristics from sample to sample - for linear amplification, expected amplitude of input and output swing and there are others like noise, frequency response, impedance, gain, power dissipation, waveform distortion, dc and ac feedback, etc.
From: Andrew Holme on 21 Dec 2009 06:55 "Dave" <db5151(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:x9-dnXPZ3NzrkLLWnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d(a)posted.internetamerica... > How can one tell if one has the optimum setup for biasing a bipolar > transistor, while it's still all on paper? There must be a way, I just > don't know what it is, and am thinking that it's not necessary to build > the damn thing every time to *see* if it works. > > Many thanks, > > Dave > > Simulation? Why not use LTSpice? It's fantastic and free. I'm playing with it right now, studying an old design for a discrete transistor DC amplifier.
From: Tim Wescott on 21 Dec 2009 10:29 On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:53:55 -0600, Dave wrote: > How can one tell if one has the optimum setup for biasing a bipolar > transistor, while it's still all on paper? There must be a way, I just > don't know what it is, and am thinking that it's not necessary to build > the damn thing every time to *see* if it works. > > Many thanks, > > Dave I use Vbe = 0.6V (or so) and do it on paper for a first cut (if you want things to work over temperature remember that Vbe can be quite different at -40C and +55C). Then I use LTSpice to verify that I didn't have my head stuck deeply into my assumptions. Then, since I have LTSpice open anyway, I use it to check the rest of the circuit. Remember that there are a whole bunch of ways to bias a transistor circuit from amazingly simple to simply amazing; all have their place and what's 'optimum' for one circuit is often woefully inadequate or terrible overkill for another. -- www.wescottdesign.com
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