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From: Beauregard T. Shagnasty on 16 Apr 2010 15:57 In 24hoursupport.helpdesk, DemoDisk wrote: > "98 Guy" wrote: >> I replied to the OP and gave him this advice: >> >> 1) Running win-98 with 1 gb of RAM will cause problems. Bring >> the system ram down to 512 mb. I never heard that one. >> 2) Running IE6 is lame, and has been for the past 3 years at least. >> On a win-98 box, run Firefox 2.0.0.20 instead. > > IE6 came with Win98, didn't it -- why is it lame to run it? I'll have > to go reread your post. Win98 came with IE5. So did Windows 2000. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer IE - any of 'em, really - are poor browsers, for a variety of reasons. One is security; another is non-standard HTML-rendering. You could ask in an HTML authoring group for lots of details. > A lot of people are jumping on chuckcar and richard more than they > offering answers to 24hs.hd requests. But ... they deserve it! -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul
From: chuckcar on 16 Apr 2010 17:06 "DemoDisk" <packrat(a)nospam.com> wrote in news:f92dnXFTRs3_JVXWnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d(a)yournetplus.com: > > "98 Guy" <98(a)Guy.com> wrote in message > news:4BC7B429.97D8E724(a)Guy.com... >> chuckcar wrote: > IE6 came with Win98, didn't it -- why is it lame to run it? I'll have > to go reread your post. > No, IE 5 came with 98SE. 6 came with Millenium I think. >> The OP has shown no indication of reading or trying my proposed >> solutions. > > > Yeah, the OP is reading everything posted in this thread. I just can't > get back to everyone right away. Sorry. > > Running Windows98 with 512MB RAM was getting worse as the web got more > complex. Plus, I'm on dialup (s---!). Mike Easter months ago advised > adding a string ("MaxFileCache=524288") to the System.ini file which > allowed me to install 1GB RAM. > > The system seemed to like it better is all I can say, but the > instability issue has grown. Where I would get lockups on occasion > before, it has worsened such that nearly every session in which > multiple windows are open ends with the system locked up and > un-responsive. The only thing possible is to hit the Reset button. > When was the last time you reinstalled windows? With 98 and 98SE installing it once a year on a wiped drive is pretty well required. If you no longer have disks for some drivers, you can run setup within windows by copying the win98 directory over to it's own directory. When you do it that way, you don't need to know the product key. That's called setup from the cabs if you want to look it up. BTW another reason why I use followups is that my new server's admins are somewhat touchy about people who *don't*. I've gotten obvious error messages typed by them personally in the past for not doing it. -- (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
From: 98 Guy on 16 Apr 2010 21:44 "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote: > >> 1) Running win-98 with 1 gb of RAM will cause problems. Bring > >> the system ram down to 512 mb. > > I never heard that one. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/253912 Any win-98 system can handle 512 mb ram with no special settings or changes (assuming the motherboard can handle that much ram). Above 512 mb, and especially between 768 mb and 1024 mb there are usually some things that must be done for stable operation (see above link). The changes involve settings in the system.ini file, such as: [386Enh] MaxPhysPage=30000 [VCache] MinFileCache=51200 MaxFileCache=524000 Interference with the AGP video memory can also be a problem. The AGP memory aperture setting in the BIOS will play a role here. > > IE6 came with Win98, didn't it -- why is it lame to run it? > > I'll have to go reread your post. > > Win98 came with IE5. So did Windows 2000. I thought that Win 2K came with IE 5.5? In any case, IE6 was released a few months before XP was launched, and as such it was made available for win-98 and 2K at that time. But Microsoft badly botched IE6 from the point of view of web designers. It broke many web-coding rules, and it is hated by many web designers because they have to impliment special code in order for their pages to be properly rendered by IE6. Most web designers want IE6 to die - they've wanted that for years. There are websites devoted to the death of IE6. Version 2.0.0.20 is the last version of Firefox that can be installed on standard win-98 systems, and it does a much better job at rendering web content. If you obtain KernelEx for win-98, you can run Firefox version 3 - and other programs that typically require win-2k or higher.
From: 98 Guy on 16 Apr 2010 21:49 DemoDisk wrote: > Running Windows98 with 512MB RAM was getting worse as the web got > more complex. Plus, I'm on dialup (s---!). Win-98 with 512 mb ram is not your problem. That's plenty of ram. The system I'm typing this on right now has a 2.5 ghz P4 with 512 mb ram - and I've got a 5 mb adsl internet connection. > Mike Easter months ago advised adding a string > ("MaxFileCache=524288") to the System.ini file which allowed > me to install 1GB RAM. That was a waste of time. Surfing the net, especially on dialup, on a win-98 system, does not require 1 gb of ram. 512 mb was plenty. > The system seemed to like it better is all I can say, but the > instability issue has grown. Naturally. You need to do way more research when you're running 1gb ram on a win-98 system. For casual web-surfing and e-mail reading, there is absolutely ZERO need for that much ram.
From: Beauregard T. Shagnasty on 16 Apr 2010 22:14
In 24hoursupport.helpdesk, 98 Guy wrote: > "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote: >>> IE6 came with Win98, didn't it -- why is it lame to run it? >>> I'll have to go reread your post. >> >> Win98 came with IE5. So did Windows 2000. > > I thought that Win 2K came with IE 5.5? No, it came with 5.0 .. well, 5.01 actually. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer#Internet_Explorer_5 Win2K was the last good OS from Microsoft. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul |