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From: bert on 1 Jun 2010 10:01
On Jun 1, 9:51 am, tg <tgdenn...(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Jun 1, 9:12 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...(a)peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 31, 8:37 pm, gor...(a)hammy.burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) wrote:
>
> > > >There is just no way BP execs can testify that they could not ask
> > > >their engineers to insert a pressure gage or two mounted on a sub to
> > > >determine the flow rate.
>
> > > >To several sig figs.
>
> > > The engineers have a problem to work on.  They don't need interruptions
> > > to prepare data for press releases.
>
> > > >BP execs needs to be doing time for that whopper alone.
>
> > > Since when is there a law against lying *to the press*?
>
> > > If the execs also told that whopper to the government regulators,
> > > let's get the leak fixed first, then put them in the slammer.
>
> > > I'd prefer that BP concentrate on stopping the leak, not measuring
> > > it,
>
> > You can't solve a problem without knowing what it is.
>
> > Any attempt to stuff anything into the pipe depends on knowing the
> > flow rate.
>
> > That's why the mud didn't work.
>
> > They were deluding themselves about the flow rate.
>
> > Determining the flow rate is fast and easy and should have been done
> > first.
>
> > Instead they started freaking out making everything 100 times worse.
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> Not really the problem Bret. As I've been saying for a month now, the
> problem is with the integrity of the structure---which means the
> relationship of the well to the casing, as well as the blowout
> preventer. After listening to the dodgy language they've been using
> for a while now, I think they have concluded that if they actually
> stopped the flow at the upper riser, the whole thing would tear apart
> from the pressure.
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BP is only proving that in time the oil well will go empty. Letting it
blow is the cheapest way to go. Its money all the way down. TreBert
From: Bret Cahill on 1 Jun 2010 19:41
This is kind of the reverse of cold fusion where they were having
trouble detecting the temperature of something they were claiming
might provide useful amounts of mechanical shaft work:

> 21" OD riser would have a fluid velocity of 1.07 mph at 50,000 bbl/day
> leakage (the consistent real world value).  

You cannot even swim that fast yet you think it would be difficult to
detect 200 lb mass/sec?

Are you this stoopid in real life or are you just pulling our legs?

The janitor who can clean the poop you just smeared all over yourself
does not exist.


Bret Cahill









From: Bret Cahill on 2 Jun 2010 19:58
> 21" OD riser would have a fluid velocity of 1.07 mph at 50,000 bbl/day
> leakage (the consistent real world value).  

http://www.gesensing.com/products/resources/brochures/xmt868.pdf

Clamp on available (non invasive)

< 0.13 mph resolution (0.5% error; full scale = 40 ft/sec)

Good to 3000 psi or 6100 feet below sea level

Hydrocarbon fluids

Ain't no janitor can clean up the poop the idiot above smeared all
over himself.

Of course, we already knew his response was stoopid because he cannot
even swim 1 mph yet he thinks that speed would be difficult to
measure.



Bret Cahill











From: pamela on 3 Jun 2010 10:32
Bret Cahill wrote:
>> 21" OD riser would have a fluid velocity of 1.07 mph at 50,000 bbl/day
>> leakage (the consistent real world value).
>
> http://www.gesensing.com/products/resources/brochures/xmt868.pdf
>
> Clamp on available (non invasive)
>
> < 0.13 mph resolution (0.5% error; full scale = 40 ft/sec)
>
> Good to 3000 psi or 6100 feet below sea level
>
> Hydrocarbon fluids
>
> Ain't no janitor can clean up the poop the idiot above smeared all
> over himself.
>
> Of course, we already knew his response was stoopid because he cannot
> even swim 1 mph yet he thinks that speed would be difficult to
> measure.
>
>
>
> Bret Cahill


Stupid ? ? ?

This is the pot calling the kettle black.
From: spudnik on 3 Jun 2010 13:25
I'd like to hear more about Halliburton's engineering;
is this really a Dark Art?... following, about a popular and
superefficient use of oil.

Dear Editor;
The staff report on plastic bags, given when SM considered a ban,
before, refused to list the actual fraction of a penny, paid for them
by bulk users like grocers & farmers at markets. Any rational EIR
would show that, at a fraction of a gram of "fossilized fuel (TM)"
per bag, a)
they require far less energy & materiel than a paper bag, and b)
that recycling them is impractical & unsanitary, beyond reusing the
clean
ones for carrying & garbage. (Alas, the fundy Greenies say that
the bags are not biodegradeable, but everyday observation shows,
they certainly don't last very long.)

As I stated at that meeting, perhaps coastal communities *should* ban
them -- except at farmers' markets -- because they are such efficient
examples of "tensional integrity," that they can clog stormdrains by
catching all sorts of leaves, twigs & paper. But, a statewide ban is
just too much of an environmental & economic burden.

--Stop British Petroleum's capNtrade rip-off;
tell your legislators, a tiny tax on carbon could achieve the result,
instead of "let the arbitrageurs/hedgies/daytrippers make
as much money as they can on CO2 credits!"
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