Both Avira and Malwarebytes claiming GamersGate patches areTrojans
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From: Maximus the Mad on 29 Nov 2009 14:38 On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:59:43 -0500, Wile E. Coyote <coyote(a)acme.invalid> wrote: > David H. Lipman wrote: > >> It is also presumptuaous tho say because of the above factor, anti >> malware is flawed. On the contrary, your presumption is flawed. >> > > No it isn't because it is set back to default heuristics mode already > and I am a betting man that if I installed Avast it would not give me > the same false positive so that would make both Avira and Malwarebytes > flawed in their detection ability. I have not installed Avast so have no > idea if it will detect those same two game patches as Trojans but from > past experience of using Avast I am betting it won't. Up to the > challenge? > I'll take that bet(you lost already)! It has been my experience that avast has it's false positives and has hosed my internet connection more than once due to an FP. It was a good thing that I had another computer running AntiVir so I was able to download the updated avast def file and manually update avast. I have never experienced that on any system running AntiVir. > You may think this is a minor inconvenience to the customer but I am > sure you are aware that there have been many customers in the past who > are neophytes and have had their computer rendered useless because they > let the AV prog delete or quarantine the file that was a false positive > because they didn't check to make sure it was a false positive first. To > make AV progs better and less flawed all of them should warn the user of > the potential that the detected virus is possibly a false positive and > to get a second opinion before allowing the AV prog to delete or > quarantine the file. Another flaw is the fact that some AV progs are set > to default to quarantine the file with no user interaction needed unless > they change the setting first. Many noobs never even look at the > settings so quarantine or delete should never be the default setting. > The fact you are not willing to consider constructive criticism is a > flaw so back off jack. > Many AV's are set up at a 4th grade reading level so I don't know about the AV displaying a message telling the user that, "it may be a false positive","you should get a second opinion","do you really want to do this?",etc. Quarrantine not delete should be the default setting for every AV product IMO. and that would be Mr.jack to you. -- Max Wachtel This post was created using Opera(a)USB: http://www.opera-usb.com Virus Removal Instructions http://sites.google.com/site/keepingwindowsclean/home Max's Favorite Freeware http://sites.google.com/site/keepingwindowsclean/freeware
From: Maximus the Mad on 30 Nov 2009 13:24 On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:04:25 -0500, Wile E. Coyote <coyote(a)acme.invalid> wrote: > Maximus the Mad wrote: > >> I'll take that bet(you lost already)! > > Prove it. Scan the two files I mentioned and report what Avast finds. If > you don't then you have won no bet. I am still betting Avast doesn't > give false positive on those same two files. The files are the two game > patches to Takeda3. They should be available via The Patches Scrolls too > and not just on the GamersGate site so you don't need to join GamerGate > and buy the game to download them. I contacted GamersGate about it and > was told the files are just renamed files but exactly the same as the > files available publicly. Here's what I am betting, Avira and > Malwarebytes flagged those two files just because they have the word > "Gate" in them and no other reason. That's how dumb these progs really > are and is why I would never pay a penny for them. > >> Quarrantine not delete should be the default setting for every AV >> product IMO. > > If it quarantines a needed system file and you reboot your PC then you > are hosed. I think thye should just warn the user by default and if they > want to quarantine by default then make that purely a user option. > > Not long ago AVG hosed thousands of noobs computers for doing exactly > what you suggest. Look it up. > > >> and that would be Mr.jack to you. > > Ok, Mr. Jack. :) I am not going to search the net for the file you're talking about but here are two links where you should post your issues. http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/ http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?langid=1 -- Max Wachtel This post was created using Opera(a)USB: http://www.opera-usb.com Virus Removal Instructions http://sites.google.com/site/keepingwindowsclean/home Max's Favorite Freeware http://sites.google.com/site/keepingwindowsclean/freeware
From: Maximus the Mad on 1 Dec 2009 21:30
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:14:25 -0500, Wile E. Coyote <coyote(a)acme.invalid> wrote: > John Mason Jr wrote: > >> It is true that Dustin is often here, however for fastest results I >> would reccommend the malwarebytes support forums >> They ask that you run the mbam.exe with the /developer switch and post >> the log > > Yes, I know, but I hate going through the hassle of registering on web > forums just to make one post and is why I post here instead. The > developers know that the smarter people still use Usenet and not > pussified web forums. ;) that is the wrong attitude. be a help. -- Max Wachtel This post was created using Opera(a)USB: http://www.opera-usb.com Virus Removal Instructions http://sites.google.com/site/keepingwindowsclean/home Max's Favorite Freeware http://sites.google.com/site/keepingwindowsclean/freeware |