Bridging with SWEEX LC000070?
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From: Paul on 29 Sep 2005 10:45 We have two Sweex wireless routers, type nr. LC00070. According to the manual (see http://www.sweexeurope.com/media/manuals/LC000070_man_eng_full.pdf page 26) it is possible to configure these as bridge and access points simultaneously. I spent almost a whole day unsucsessfully making this happen. Did you succeed? Any good tips really appreciated!!
From: Steve Berry on 29 Sep 2005 19:42 Hi Paul, If you mean WDS with the default Sweex firmware, yes it's possible ( I know the docs are pretty abysmal for them-actually they're the worst I've ever seen ). Buy cheap-get cheap. Additionally, the MAC addresses on them ( at least the ones I've seen ) are the WAN MAC addresses not the AP MAC addresses which are the ones you need to use. Two ways to find the AP MACs. ping each of your routers and then look at the arp cache ( arp -a on Windoze ). or Download/run Netstumbler (if you're running Windoze) - gives you the same info and alot more besides. Then basically, 1-Change the IP of one of your routers. 2-Make the SSIDs unique. 3-Make sure they're using the same channel. 4-Dsiable DHCP on the bridge. 5-Enable WDS on both routers specifying the AP Macs. 6-Enable MAC Address Control ( you only need to specify association for the WDS link ). 7-Enable WEP/WPA. As to the merits of WDS - I was educated by a certain "Jeff" in here fairly recently. He's the kind of guy you may want to listen to (see the thread "Extending a wireless network" in here). HTH Rgds, S "Paul" <paul_joosten.no(a)spam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:a0572$433bfe30$513b43d8$11354(a)news.versatel.nl... > We have two Sweex wireless routers, type nr. LC00070. According to the > manual (see > http://www.sweexeurope.com/media/manuals/LC000070_man_eng_full.pdf page > 26) it is possible to configure these as bridge and access points > simultaneously. I spent almost a whole day unsucsessfully making this > happen. Did you succeed? Any good tips really appreciated!! >
From: Paul on 30 Sep 2005 00:10 Thanks Steve, that hint about MAC addresses might be it, I'll check and let you know! Paul "Steve Berry" <reachnet(a)hotmail.com> schreef in bericht news:zZ__e.4605$9l4.1911(a)newsfe4-win.ntli.net... > Hi Paul, > > If you mean WDS with the default Sweex firmware, yes it's possible ( I > know the docs are pretty abysmal for them-actually they're the worst I've > ever seen ). Buy cheap-get cheap. > Additionally, the MAC addresses on them ( at least the ones I've seen ) > are the WAN MAC addresses not the AP MAC addresses which are the ones you > need to use. > Two ways to find the AP MACs. > ping each of your routers and then look at the arp cache ( arp -a on > Windoze ). or > Download/run Netstumbler (if you're running Windoze) - gives you the same > info and alot more besides. > > Then basically, > 1-Change the IP of one of your routers. > 2-Make the SSIDs unique. > 3-Make sure they're using the same channel. > 4-Dsiable DHCP on the bridge. > 5-Enable WDS on both routers specifying the AP Macs. > 6-Enable MAC Address Control ( you only need to specify association for > the WDS link ). > 7-Enable WEP/WPA. > > As to the merits of WDS - I was educated by a certain "Jeff" in here > fairly recently. He's the kind of guy you may want to listen to (see the > thread "Extending a wireless network" in here). > > HTH > > Rgds, S > > "Paul" <paul_joosten.no(a)spam.hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:a0572$433bfe30$513b43d8$11354(a)news.versatel.nl... >> We have two Sweex wireless routers, type nr. LC00070. According to the >> manual (see >> http://www.sweexeurope.com/media/manuals/LC000070_man_eng_full.pdf page >> 26) it is possible to configure these as bridge and access points >> simultaneously. I spent almost a whole day unsucsessfully making this >> happen. Did you succeed? Any good tips really appreciated!! >> > >
From: Paul on 30 Sep 2005 17:41 Steve, The hint worked, the wireless MAC addresses turned out to be identical to the wired MAC addresses as printed on the bottom stickers plus one. Network Stumbler was a great help. I got the bridge operational but so far only unencrypted. As soon as I engage encryption, using the same key on both AP's, the bridge somehow does not work anymore, as when I try to connect I do not get an IP-number allocated. For the JOTA weekend that is not too bad but in the future I would like the encryption working too. Any more hints? Do you have a similar setup working? If so I would like to get a config.bin backup of the settings of both your AP's to compare the settings. Alternatively would you like to get mine to see what's wrong? Paul "Paul" <paul_joosten.no(a)spam.hotmail.com> schreef in bericht news:7a1$433cbadc$513b43d8$787(a)news.versatel.nl... > Thanks Steve, that hint about MAC addresses might be it, I'll check and > let you know! > > Paul > "Steve Berry" <reachnet(a)hotmail.com> schreef in bericht > news:zZ__e.4605$9l4.1911(a)newsfe4-win.ntli.net... >> Hi Paul, >> >> If you mean WDS with the default Sweex firmware, yes it's possible ( I >> know the docs are pretty abysmal for them-actually they're the worst I've >> ever seen ). Buy cheap-get cheap. >> Additionally, the MAC addresses on them ( at least the ones I've seen ) >> are the WAN MAC addresses not the AP MAC addresses which are the ones you >> need to use. >> Two ways to find the AP MACs. >> ping each of your routers and then look at the arp cache ( arp -a on >> Windoze ). or >> Download/run Netstumbler (if you're running Windoze) - gives you the same >> info and alot more besides. >> >> Then basically, >> 1-Change the IP of one of your routers. >> 2-Make the SSIDs unique. >> 3-Make sure they're using the same channel. >> 4-Dsiable DHCP on the bridge. >> 5-Enable WDS on both routers specifying the AP Macs. >> 6-Enable MAC Address Control ( you only need to specify association for >> the WDS link ). >> 7-Enable WEP/WPA. >> >> As to the merits of WDS - I was educated by a certain "Jeff" in here >> fairly recently. He's the kind of guy you may want to listen to (see the >> thread "Extending a wireless network" in here). >> >> HTH >> >> Rgds, S >> >> "Paul" <paul_joosten.no(a)spam.hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:a0572$433bfe30$513b43d8$11354(a)news.versatel.nl... >>> We have two Sweex wireless routers, type nr. LC00070. According to the >>> manual (see >>> http://www.sweexeurope.com/media/manuals/LC000070_man_eng_full.pdf page >>> 26) it is possible to configure these as bridge and access points >>> simultaneously. I spent almost a whole day unsucsessfully making this >>> happen. Did you succeed? Any good tips really appreciated!! >>> >> >> > >
From: Steve Berry on 30 Sep 2005 18:43
Paul, Yip, MAC+1 sounds about right. At the minute I'm using WEP ( I know it sucks-better to use WPA ), but the client cards I use don't support AES, although they do TKIP ( cheap again ). I *believe* there's a performance hit when using TKIP that AES doesn't suffer, I've just decided just to leave it at boring-old WEP at the minute, till I get time to look at it. Funnily enough these routers as advertised don't even mention support for WPA only 64/128 bit WEP, although the router interface supports WPA/PSK - guess that's what happens with cheapo (Chinese) works in progress..They're also running SMC Barricade (embedded) of you're interested. Err.. pardon me for being ignorant but what's JOTA ??? What, you want my config settings so's you can jump on a boat with your laptop to the UK, drive half-way up the country and hack me silly ?? ;) I'd suggest just starting off with basic 64 bit/WEP and one (sort of randomish) 10-digit hex key on each router. Use chars if you prefer. Enter the same key on XP manually (which I assume you're running) - the Sweex won't dish them out. Open Network Auth/WEP data encryption. Obviously you only really need to do this for the bridge, but you might want to do it for the AP too, depending on your setup. Then just progress upwards to the encryption level you're happy with. If you want to send me your settings feel free - consultancy fee 500,000 UKP. He..he... ;) S "Paul" <paul_joosten.no(a)spam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:533d8$433db108$513b43d8$29987(a)news.versatel.nl... > Steve, > > The hint worked, the wireless MAC addresses turned out to be identical to > the wired MAC addresses as printed on the bottom stickers plus one. > Network Stumbler was a great help. I got the bridge operational but so far > only unencrypted. As soon as I engage encryption, using the same key on > both AP's, the bridge somehow does not work anymore, as when I try to > connect I do not get an IP-number allocated. For the JOTA weekend that is > not too bad but in the future I would like the encryption working too. Any > more hints? Do you have a similar setup working? If so I would like to get > a config.bin backup of the settings of both your AP's to compare the > settings. Alternatively would you like to get mine to see what's wrong? > > Paul > "Paul" <paul_joosten.no(a)spam.hotmail.com> schreef in bericht > news:7a1$433cbadc$513b43d8$787(a)news.versatel.nl... >> Thanks Steve, that hint about MAC addresses might be it, I'll check and >> let you know! >> >> Paul >> "Steve Berry" <reachnet(a)hotmail.com> schreef in bericht >> news:zZ__e.4605$9l4.1911(a)newsfe4-win.ntli.net... >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> If you mean WDS with the default Sweex firmware, yes it's possible ( I >>> know the docs are pretty abysmal for them-actually they're the worst >>> I've ever seen ). Buy cheap-get cheap. >>> Additionally, the MAC addresses on them ( at least the ones I've seen ) >>> are the WAN MAC addresses not the AP MAC addresses which are the ones >>> you need to use. >>> Two ways to find the AP MACs. >>> ping each of your routers and then look at the arp cache ( arp -a on >>> Windoze ). or >>> Download/run Netstumbler (if you're running Windoze) - gives you the >>> same info and alot more besides. >>> >>> Then basically, >>> 1-Change the IP of one of your routers. >>> 2-Make the SSIDs unique. >>> 3-Make sure they're using the same channel. >>> 4-Dsiable DHCP on the bridge. >>> 5-Enable WDS on both routers specifying the AP Macs. >>> 6-Enable MAC Address Control ( you only need to specify association for >>> the WDS link ). >>> 7-Enable WEP/WPA. >>> >>> As to the merits of WDS - I was educated by a certain "Jeff" in here >>> fairly recently. He's the kind of guy you may want to listen to (see the >>> thread "Extending a wireless network" in here). >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Rgds, S >>> >>> "Paul" <paul_joosten.no(a)spam.hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:a0572$433bfe30$513b43d8$11354(a)news.versatel.nl... >>>> We have two Sweex wireless routers, type nr. LC00070. According to the >>>> manual (see >>>> http://www.sweexeurope.com/media/manuals/LC000070_man_eng_full.pdf page >>>> 26) it is possible to configure these as bridge and access points >>>> simultaneously. I spent almost a whole day unsucsessfully making this >>>> happen. Did you succeed? Any good tips really appreciated!! >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |