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From: Nil on 24 May 2010 11:45
On 24 May 2010, John Doe <jdoe(a)usenetlove.invalid> wrote in
alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:

> A picture is worth 1000 words. Better would be to get a real
> newsreader and news server so you can see small format pictures.
> The days of no binaries on UseNet are gone.

No, they are not. I checked that article on four different news
services, and the picture was stripped out of the message in all of
them.
From: John Doe on 24 May 2010 12:42
Nil <rednoise REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote

>> A picture is worth 1000 words. Better would be to get a real
>> newsreader and news server so you can see small format
>> pictures. The days of no binaries on UseNet are gone.
>
> No, they are not. I checked that article on four different news
> services, and the picture was stripped out of the message in all
> of them.

Maybe not in the Third World, but the days of no binaries on
UseNet are definitely gone here.

Try AstraWeb.com.

If you are using a free text only news server, you might not be
able to see very useful small format pictures here on UseNet.
In that case, I would definitely recommend upgrading.
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> From: Nil <rednoise REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
> Subject: Re: Broken heatsink - how to fix - broke.jpg (0/1)
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From: Nil on 24 May 2010 16:53
On 24 May 2010, John Doe <jdoe(a)usenetlove.invalid> wrote in
alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:

> Maybe not in the Third World, but the days of no binaries on
> UseNet are definitely gone here.

You have a very limited perspective.

> Try AstraWeb.com.

No.
From: Pedro on 25 May 2010 09:18
On 23 May 2010 11:20:04 GMT, John Doe <jdoe(a)usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Pedro <1 2.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone, the piece that the hook on the heatsink hooks
>> to that holds it against the chip broke off the motherboard. How
>> can I fix this? I attached a picture in case that made no sense.
>> Thanks to anyone that can advise.
>
>I would thoroughly clean the heatsink and CPU, lightly sand them
>both with very fine sandpaper, clean them both again, then
>superglue the heatsink onto the CPU using firm pressure to keep as
>little space as possible between the heatsink and the CPU. If you
>have a spare somewhere, use a bigger heatsink for it.
>
>Some people say that superglue is an insulator, but do not provide
>any authoritative references about that. I have used super glue
>for heatsink purposes and it worked well, maybe partly because I
>am very neat about it (not easy to be neat with superglue).
>
>Just drilling a hole through motherboard is a bad idea since they
>are multilayer circuit boards. Trying to remove something like
>that and redo it can be very difficult unless you are skilled at
>soldering. Depending on the situation, it can be impossible unless
>you also have a suction tool.
>
>Good luck and have fun.



Thanks for answering, that's sounds like it might be a good option.
Actually it's the chipset we're talking about, not the CPU. Maybe it's
not so obvious in the picture. Anyway, is it safe to use rubbing
alcohol to clean them? And how fine does the sandpaper need to be, I
think I have some 400 grit lying around.

To everyone who couldn't see the picture: Sorry but I wasn't aware
that some news servers dropped the binary attachments. Yes I know this
is a non-binary group but I couldn't be bothered to upload it to a
picture hosting site. The motherboard is an AOpen AX4SPE-UN. Here's a
direct link to the manual:

http://download.aopen.com.tw/Download.aspx?RecNo=7279&Model=714&Section=8&DL=yes
From: Paul on 25 May 2010 13:44
Pedro wrote:
> On 23 May 2010 11:20:04 GMT, John Doe <jdoe(a)usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Pedro <1 2.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone, the piece that the hook on the heatsink hooks
>>> to that holds it against the chip broke off the motherboard. How
>>> can I fix this? I attached a picture in case that made no sense.
>>> Thanks to anyone that can advise.
>> I would thoroughly clean the heatsink and CPU, lightly sand them
>> both with very fine sandpaper, clean them both again, then
>> superglue the heatsink onto the CPU using firm pressure to keep as
>> little space as possible between the heatsink and the CPU. If you
>> have a spare somewhere, use a bigger heatsink for it.
>>
>> Some people say that superglue is an insulator, but do not provide
>> any authoritative references about that. I have used super glue
>> for heatsink purposes and it worked well, maybe partly because I
>> am very neat about it (not easy to be neat with superglue).
>>
>> Just drilling a hole through motherboard is a bad idea since they
>> are multilayer circuit boards. Trying to remove something like
>> that and redo it can be very difficult unless you are skilled at
>> soldering. Depending on the situation, it can be impossible unless
>> you also have a suction tool.
>>
>> Good luck and have fun.
>
>
>
> Thanks for answering, that's sounds like it might be a good option.
> Actually it's the chipset we're talking about, not the CPU. Maybe it's
> not so obvious in the picture. Anyway, is it safe to use rubbing
> alcohol to clean them? And how fine does the sandpaper need to be, I
> think I have some 400 grit lying around.
>
> To everyone who couldn't see the picture: Sorry but I wasn't aware
> that some news servers dropped the binary attachments. Yes I know this
> is a non-binary group but I couldn't be bothered to upload it to a
> picture hosting site. The motherboard is an AOpen AX4SPE-UN. Here's a
> direct link to the manual:
>
> http://download.aopen.com.tw/Download.aspx?RecNo=7279&Model=714&Section=8&DL=yes

http://web.archive.org/web/20050329083914/aopen.jp/products/mb/large/ax4spe-ul-l.jpg

You can solder the hook back in place. There is no need for thermal epoxy.

The problem with the method, is the original hook, that the spring clip hooks
onto, is made from the wrong metal. It solders poorly, which is why it pulls
out of place.

If you purchase a 1/2 watt resistor, and cut the legs off it, the wire from
that can be used to make a new hook. And the tin-lead finish of the resistor
leg, solders well, and won't come out.

*******

If you really want to use thermal epoxy, it is *permanent* and cannot be removed.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100005

You mix the two components together, and apply it. Once the heatsink
sets with the epoxy in place, it can never be removed again. If you
try to remove the heatsink, it will rip the lid off the Northbridge.

Paul
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