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From: John Doe on 13 Mar 2010 09:07 Marten Kemp <marten.kemp thisplanet-link.net> wrote: > John Doe wrote: >> LSMFT <boleyn7 aol.com> wrote: >>> Are we stuck around 3ghz? I haven't seen much speed >>> improvement in years other than more cores and 64 bit. Some >>> 4ghz around, seems like we should be at 7 or 10 ghz by now. >> >> More cores equals tremendous speed improvements. > > Only for OSen Windows is the only real PC "OSen", you ignorant fuckturd. > and applications which can make effective use of multiple CPUs. Bullshit, fuckturd. The CPU and/or user can force use of the extra cores. > Once Upon A Time Another fuckturd who lives in a fantasy land. > the rule-of-opposable-digit was that about 20% of the cycles of > an additional CPU were consumed as overhead. Says a Luddite fuckturd. -- > -- > -- Marten Kemp (Fix ISP to reply) > You can't help being ignorant 'cause there's always > something you don't know; what you can't be is stupid. > > > Path: news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news.astraweb.com!border3.a.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news.netcologne.de!newsfeed-hp3.netcologne.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news.babsi.de!news.mb-net.net!open-news-network.org!aioe.org!not-for-mail > From: Marten Kemp <marten.kemp thisplanet-link.net> > Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt > Subject: Re: CPU ceiling? > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:09:00 -0500 > Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server > Lines: 19 > Message-ID: <hnfro9$24a$1 speranza.aioe.org> > References: <TeAln.27153$sx5.13260 newsfe16.iad> <4b976a43$0$10941$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> > Reply-To: marten.kemp thisplanet-link.net > NNTP-Posting-Host: jXx92X0F4HS8k3cwWK7IIw.user.speranza.aioe.org > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Complaints-To: abuse aioe.org > X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 > User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) >
From: Marten Kemp on 13 Mar 2010 10:04 John Doe wrote: > Marten Kemp <marten.kemp thisplanet-link.net> wrote: > >> John Doe wrote: >>> LSMFT <boleyn7 aol.com> wrote: > >>>> Are we stuck around 3ghz? I haven't seen much speed >>>> improvement in years other than more cores and 64 bit. Some >>>> 4ghz around, seems like we should be at 7 or 10 ghz by now. >>> More cores equals tremendous speed improvements. >> Only for OSen > > Windows is the only real PC "OSen", you ignorant fuckturd. > >> and applications which can make effective use of multiple CPUs. > > Bullshit, fuckturd. The CPU and/or user can force use of the extra > cores. > >> Once Upon A Time > > Another fuckturd who lives in a fantasy land. > >> the rule-of-opposable-digit was that about 20% of the cycles of >> an additional CPU were consumed as overhead. > > Says a Luddite fuckturd. Who pissed in your porridge? -- -- Marten Kemp (Fix ISP to reply) You can't help being ignorant 'cause there's always something you don't know; what you can't be is stupid.
From: John Doe on 13 Mar 2010 10:57 Marten Kemp <marten.kemp thisplanet-link.net> wrote: > Who pissed in your porridge? Why do you pretend to know about PCs? -- > > -- > -- Marten Kemp (Fix ISP to reply) > You can't help being ignorant 'cause there's always > something you don't know; what you can't be is stupid. > > > Path: news.astraweb.com!border2.newsrouter.astraweb.com! news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!news.glorb.com!feeder.erje.net! feeder.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!aioe.org!not-for- > From: Marten Kemp <marten.kemp thisplanet-link.net> > Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt > Subject: Re: CPU ceiling? > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:04:49 -0500 > Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server > Lines: 34 > Message-ID: <hng9ie$op5$1 speranza.aioe.org> > References: <TeAln.27153$sx5.13260 newsfe16.iad> <4b976a43$0$10941 $c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> <hnfro9$24a$1 speranza.aioe.org> <4b9b9c32$0$24355$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> > Reply-To: marten.kemp thisplanet-link.net > NNTP-Posting-Host: jXx92X0F4HS8k3cwWK7IIw.user.speranza.aioe.org > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Complaints-To: abuse aioe.org > X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 > User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) >
From: LSMFT on 13 Mar 2010 12:12 geoff wrote: >> Are we stuck around 3ghz? > > Yep, beyond that generates too much heat. In the middle 90s, Intel talked > about bio-chips, etc. by Y2K. That never happened. Intel kept upping the > CPU speed until they ran into a heat problem. > > Fortunately, they had a skunkworks in Israel that came up with the > multi-core idea. > > What Intel does beyond that to improve speed, I don't know but it seems the > aliens from Roswell are no longer around to advise them. > > --g > > Well a radio oscillator can run over 300 ghz. Why can't a microprocessor?
From: Paul on 13 Mar 2010 12:55
LSMFT wrote: > geoff wrote: >>> Are we stuck around 3ghz? >> >> Yep, beyond that generates too much heat. In the middle 90s, Intel >> talked >> about bio-chips, etc. by Y2K. That never happened. Intel kept upping >> the >> CPU speed until they ran into a heat problem. >> >> Fortunately, they had a skunkworks in Israel that came up with the >> multi-core idea. >> >> What Intel does beyond that to improve speed, I don't know but it >> seems the >> aliens from Roswell are no longer around to advise them. >> >> --g >> >> > Well a radio oscillator can run over 300 ghz. Why can't a microprocessor? Power. This is an example of something that goes fast. You'd use this on the front end of a fiber optic transmission system, to bring the data rate down to something that silicon can handle. (Serial to parallel conversion.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterojunction_Bipolar_Transistor http://www.semiconductor-today.com/features/Semiconductor%20Today%20-%20Transcending%20frequency%20and%20integration%20limits.pdf "HBTs also have potential for the highest-speed digital and mixed-signal circuits with clock rates beyond 100GHz." It has the speed, but not the gate density, to build processors. Paul |