From: Ben Goldman on
Here In Oregon let loose with the following tirade:

>
> "Ben Goldman" <BenGoldmanREMOVE(a)centurytel.net> wrote in message
> news:HrKdna7jo-TURj7WnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d(a)centurytel.net...
> > Nil let loose with the following tirade:
> >
> >>On 19 Mar 2010, "Here In Oregon" <HIO(a)nospam.net> wrote in
> > > cakewalk.audio:
> > >
> >>> For those in the know scroll down to almost 3/4s down the page to
> >>> Here In Oregon in this link on May 13, 2007 12:15 AM.
> > > >
> >>> http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=1046026&mpage=1#1048448
> > > >
> >>> Thank you for your time and I am curious to get your thoughts. I
> >>> did cut and paste from my original word document the saving part
> >>> but even the opening four paragraphs have this stuff in it. Maybe
> >>> one of you programmers can tell me what is going on. Again I am
> >>> just curious.
> > >
> > > That's the problem, that you pasted the text from a Word
> > > document. MS Word used "smart quotes" (the opening one is upside
> > > down) and other characters that don't have ASCII equivalents. If
> > > by "they" you meant the Cakewalk people, they didn't do it. You
> > > would have been better off turning off that feature before
> > > creating the document (it's in the Autocorrect feature settings),
> > > but now you'd have to do a search-and- replace for the upside
> > > down single and double quote marks.
> > >
> > > Your post is a little hard to read, but not all that bad.
> >
> > Try changing your character setting in your reader. Western
> > Ueropean had zero problem - no odd characters.
> >
> > -- Cheers,
> > Ben
>
> I just sent a post and response to Nil. Thanks Ben! This must
> explain it. I have a new computer and it is probably reading it
> differently. That is good to know; I will change my font for
> viewing. Would you recommend Western European (Windows) or Western
> European (IS0)?????

Good question. This particular reader doesn't show which one they've
got in the menu.

I just reinstalled this reader yesterday and don't remember what my
favorite character set was. Western European (?) had no trouble with
your post. I know I used to use things like US ASCII and UTF-8.

--
Cheers,
Ben
From: Here In Oregon on

"Ben Goldman" <BenGoldmanREMOVE(a)centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:v9qdndx6TL9DQj7WnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d(a)centurytel.net...
> Here In Oregon let loose with the following tirade:
>
>>
>> "Ben Goldman" <BenGoldmanREMOVE(a)centurytel.net> wrote in message
>> news:HrKdna7jo-TURj7WnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d(a)centurytel.net...
>> > Nil let loose with the following tirade:
>> >
>> >>On 19 Mar 2010, "Here In Oregon" <HIO(a)nospam.net> wrote in
>> > > cakewalk.audio:
>> > >
>> >>> For those in the know scroll down to almost 3/4s down the page to
>> >>> Here In Oregon in this link on May 13, 2007 12:15 AM.
>> > > >
>> >>> http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=1046026&mpage=1#1048448
>> > > >
>> >>> Thank you for your time and I am curious to get your thoughts. I
>> >>> did cut and paste from my original word document the saving part
>> >>> but even the opening four paragraphs have this stuff in it. Maybe
>> >>> one of you programmers can tell me what is going on. Again I am
>> >>> just curious.
>> > >
>> > > That's the problem, that you pasted the text from a Word
>> > > document. MS Word used "smart quotes" (the opening one is upside
>> > > down) and other characters that don't have ASCII equivalents. If
>> > > by "they" you meant the Cakewalk people, they didn't do it. You
>> > > would have been better off turning off that feature before
>> > > creating the document (it's in the Autocorrect feature settings),
>> > > but now you'd have to do a search-and- replace for the upside
>> > > down single and double quote marks.
>> > >
>> > > Your post is a little hard to read, but not all that bad.
>> >
>> > Try changing your character setting in your reader. Western
>> > Ueropean had zero problem - no odd characters.
>> >
>> > -- Cheers,
>> > Ben
>>
>> I just sent a post and response to Nil. Thanks Ben! This must
>> explain it. I have a new computer and it is probably reading it
>> differently. That is good to know; I will change my font for
>> viewing. Would you recommend Western European (Windows) or Western
>> European (IS0)?????
>
> Good question. This particular reader doesn't show which one they've
> got in the menu.
>
> I just reinstalled this reader yesterday and don't remember what my
> favorite character set was. Western European (?) had no trouble with
> your post. I know I used to use things like US ASCII and UTF-8.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Ben

Thanks. I will try them both or the first one that works wins.

From: Here In Oregon on
My computer was defaulting on Unicode (UTF-8) and I have tried both Western
European (Windows) and (ISO) and it just gets worse after the page
refreshes.
Do I have to go to Arabic, Japanese, or Chinese? Is this a conspiracy?
Are Sonar users uniting against the grim Reaper? Should I be preparing for
some attack and battle. Am I considered an anathema and heretic to Sonar
users now?

From: Nil on
On 19 Mar 2010, "Here In Oregon" <HIO(a)nospam.net> wrote in
cakewalk.audio:

> My computer was defaulting on Unicode (UTF-8) and I have tried
> both Western European (Windows) and (ISO) and it just gets worse
> after the page refreshes.
> Do I have to go to Arabic, Japanese, or Chinese? Is this a
> conspiracy? Are Sonar users uniting against the grim Reaper?
> Should I be preparing for some attack and battle. Am I considered
> an anathema and heretic to Sonar users now?

My browser, Firefox, only has US English and English English languages
installed. Neither display the curly quotes properly. Other languages
are available, but they are quite specific as to country. There is no
"Western European English" available.

Those characters aren't legal HTML characters, so by all rights, they
SHOULDN'T display. I don't know why they did. Maybe they would look
better with Internet Explorer, since those characters are a non-
standard Microsoft thing in the first place.

If I were you, I'd edit my post, if possible, copy the text into a text
editor and search and replace all the bad characters with good ones.


I just tried the page out with IE. It looks just as bad there, and none
of the other character encodings helps.
From: Nil on
On 19 Mar 2010, "Ben Goldman" <BenGoldmanREMOVE(a)centurytel.net>
wrote in cakewalk.audio:

> Try changing your character setting in your reader. Western
> Ueropean had zero problem - no odd characters.

I tried that in both Firefox and IE, and it doesn't help here.

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