From: bert on
On Aug 1, 8:29 am, Huang <huangxienc...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 1, 7:02 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 7/31/10 11:49 PM, Kali Hawa wrote:
>
> > > Can a bigbang occur within our Universe?
>
> >    Why not?
>
> I find the cosmic firecracker model to be a little incomplete.
>
> If motions in different reference frames can be equivalent, then
> cosmic expansion is equivalent to local contraction. You cannot
> conclude from redshift that we neccesarily have expansion.
>
> If we were contracting locally you would have the same redshift.
>
> These things are equivalent.

We are detecting in outer space explosions that use the energy of the
whole universe. That is a mini big bang. Our universe was created in a
universe. There are as many universes as flakes of snow in a storm
that is infinite. The very first universe was created 10^39 years ago
in an area of space this small. A meter devided by 10^33 TreBert
From: Y.Porat on
On Aug 1, 2:02 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/31/10 11:49 PM, Kali Hawa wrote:
>
> > Can a bigbang occur within our Universe?
>
>    Why not?

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idiot
space is nothing
so
how can a nothing be created from another nothing !!
you are not a physicist
go deal with philosophy
and even in phylosophy
you dont make any sense
Y.P


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From: Y.Porat on
On Aug 1, 2:29 pm, Huang <huangxienc...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 1, 7:02 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 7/31/10 11:49 PM, Kali Hawa wrote:
>
> > > Can a bigbang occur within our Universe?
>
> >    Why not?
>
> I find the cosmic firecracker model to be a little incomplete.
>
> If motions in different reference frames can be equivalent, then
> cosmic expansion is equivalent to local contraction. You cannot
> conclude from redshift that we neccesarily have expansion.
>
> If we were contracting locally you would have the same redshift.
>
> These things are equivalent.

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the motion of light
is the same in all frames!!
so
red shift has nothing todo with
relativity

Y.P
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From: john on
On Aug 1, 7:05 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/1/10 7:29 AM, Huang wrote:
>
> > On Aug 1, 7:02 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On 7/31/10 11:49 PM, Kali Hawa wrote:
>
> >>> Can a bigbang occur within our Universe?
>
> >>     Why not?
>
> > I find the cosmic firecracker model to be a little incomplete.
>
>    No Center
>      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html
>      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html
>
>    Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial
>      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm
>      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html
>      http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html
>
>    WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory
>      http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html
>
>    WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology
>      http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html

You are pounding a bible, Sam.

And that bible relies morethan a little on
questionable assumptions, faulty logic,
and outright guess; i.e. mass is a constant,
gravity can cause matter to self-implode, and
dark matter.

The last one bothers me
the most. Dark matter.

Correct me if I'm wrong, here,
but we are trying to determine why the
matter we can see gravitates the way it
does, are we not?

We are trying to learn more about matter.
Which we already know a lot about, since we can
see, feel, hear, taste, etc. its presence.

So now we invent a whole new type (class?) of
matter (which we know absolutely nothing about
nor can we know anything about it since it's
INVISIBLE) in order to try to explain our matter???

Who's in charge here?

Frick, frick, fire their frickin asses!! Fire 'em!!

john
From: Jacko on
What is the characteristic impedence of space, and why would nothing
have an impedance?