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From: J. P. Gilliver (John) on 26 Oct 2009 18:42
In message <OOmSaDdVKHA.4484(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, Tim Meddick
<timmeddick(a)gawab.com> writes:
>If you are absolutely intent on saving one or more System Restore
>Points it is possible, but it's a bit of a hassle.
[]
>You cannot save individual restore points because of the way that the
>program saves the information about restore points in files within the
>"System Volume Information" folder.
>
Thanks - saved for curiosity, but ...
>
>You are probably better off, though, downloading the [free] program
>ERUNT - which teaches you all about what files constitute the Window's

.... since I already have ERUNT, I think I won't be using it (the
how-to-save-restore-points I mean)!

>registry, how to back-up the registry and how to restore the registry
>in a number of ways, including restoring the registry when you cannot
>start Windows!

Actually, it's rather coy about that aspect. I eventually asked Lars the
question, and he recommended BartPE, which I now have as a dual-boot
*must get round to making the CD version).
>
>I highly recommend you get this utility...
>
>Download the program ERUNT from the link below...
>http://www.aumha.org/downloads/erunt-setup.exe
>
>...or go to the ERUNT homepage...
>http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt
[]
One of the first things I installed after getting an XP machine!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar(a)T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

I was court-martialled in my absence, and sentenced to death in my absence, so
I
said they could shoot me in my absence. -Brendan Francis Behan, playwright
(1923-1964)
From: Tim Meddick on 26 Oct 2009 19:04
You mean you have Bart's PE installed on a hard-disk / partition?

That's very novel.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG(a)soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:u8pqZiNKXi5KFwdU(a)soft255.demon.co.uk...
> In message <OOmSaDdVKHA.4484(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, Tim Meddick
> <timmeddick(a)gawab.com> writes:
>>If you are absolutely intent on saving one or more System Restore Points it is
>>possible, but it's a bit of a hassle.
> []
>>You cannot save individual restore points because of the way that the program saves
>>the information about restore points in files within the "System Volume
>>Information" folder.
>>
> Thanks - saved for curiosity, but ...
>>
>>You are probably better off, though, downloading the [free] program ERUNT - which
>>teaches you all about what files constitute the Window's
>
> ... since I already have ERUNT, I think I won't be using it (the
> how-to-save-restore-points I mean)!
>
>>registry, how to back-up the registry and how to restore the registry in a number
>>of ways, including restoring the registry when you cannot start Windows!
>
> Actually, it's rather coy about that aspect. I eventually asked Lars the question,
> and he recommended BartPE, which I now have as a dual-boot *must get round to
> making the CD version).
>>
>>I highly recommend you get this utility...
>>
>>Download the program ERUNT from the link below...
>>http://www.aumha.org/downloads/erunt-setup.exe
>>
>>...or go to the ERUNT homepage...
>>http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt
> []
> One of the first things I installed after getting an XP machine!
> --
> J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar(a)T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
> ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
> outdated thoughts on PCs. **
>
> I was court-martialled in my absence, and sentenced to death in my absence, so
> I
> said they could shoot me in my absence. -Brendan Francis Behan, playwright
> (1923-1964)

From: J. P. Gilliver (John) on 28 Oct 2009 04:38
In message <#gUHtCpVKHA.220(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, Tim Meddick
<timmeddick(a)gawab.com> writes:
>
>You mean you have Bart's PE installed on a hard-disk / partition?
>
>That's very novel.
>
>==
(That should be "-- ", BTW.)
>
>Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
>
>
Yes; I just followed the instructions; I obviously made certain choices
at some points, including not to make a CD then if that was offered.
It's a few months since I did it now, so I can't remember the details;
but, it comes up at the relevant point during Windows booting, where it
asks me (on a black-and-white text screen) which OS I want to load, and
offers me BartPE and Windows, defaulting to Windows after a few seconds.
(I think I might have reduced that period at some point.)

Regards, John
>
>
>"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG(a)soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:u8pqZiNKXi5KFwdU(a)soft255.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <OOmSaDdVKHA.4484(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, Tim Meddick
>><timmeddick(a)gawab.com> writes:
>>>If you are absolutely intent on saving one or more System Restore
>>>Points it is possible, but it's a bit of a hassle.
>> []
>>>You cannot save individual restore points because of the way that the
>>>program saves the information about restore points in files within
>>>the "System Volume Information" folder.
>>>
>> Thanks - saved for curiosity, but ...
>>>
>>>You are probably better off, though, downloading the [free] program
>>>ERUNT - which teaches you all about what files constitute the Window's
>>
>> ... since I already have ERUNT, I think I won't be using it (the
>>how-to-save-restore-points I mean)!
>>
>>>registry, how to back-up the registry and how to restore the registry
>>>in a number of ways, including restoring the registry when you cannot
>>>start Windows!
>>
>> Actually, it's rather coy about that aspect. I eventually asked Lars
>>the question, and he recommended BartPE, which I now have as a
>>dual-boot *must get round to making the CD version).
>>>
>>>I highly recommend you get this utility...
>>>
>>>Download the program ERUNT from the link below...
>>>http://www.aumha.org/downloads/erunt-setup.exe
>>>
>>>...or go to the ERUNT homepage...
>>>http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt
>> []
>> One of the first things I installed after getting an XP machine!
>> -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985
>>MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar(a)T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
>> ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
>> outdated thoughts on PCs. **
>>
>> I was court-martialled in my absence, and sentenced to death in my
>>absence, so
>> I
>> said they could shoot me in my absence. -Brendan Francis Behan, playwright
>> (1923-1964)
>

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar(a)T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

"Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum." Translation: "Garbage in, garbage out."
From: Tim Meddick on 28 Oct 2009 10:24
That's interesting as I don't have a CD/DVD writer - just a cd-rom drive, but I do
have two hard-drives installed and might look into doing something along those lines,
now that I know it's possible.

BTW changing the "time-out" of the OS choices menu is as simple as text-editing the
root-file "boot.ini" and changing the very first lines:

[boot loader]
timeout=1

You may have to change the file's attributes in order to see / save the file.
Alternatively, there's a built-in editor for the "boot.ini" file. If you open the
System Properties control panel and select the "Advanced" tab and click on the
"Startup and recovery" button. There's a little box to change the numerical value of
[timeout=] or another button to manually edit the entire file. This has the
advantage of not needing to change the file's attributes, as it alters them
automatically.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG(a)soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Pr8SMLaRMA6KFwAI(a)soft255.demon.co.uk...
> In message <#gUHtCpVKHA.220(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, Tim Meddick
> <timmeddick(a)gawab.com> writes:
>>
>>You mean you have Bart's PE installed on a hard-disk / partition?
>>
>>That's very novel.
>>
>>==
> (That should be "-- ", BTW.)
>>
>>Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
>>
>>
> Yes; I just followed the instructions; I obviously made certain choices at some
> points, including not to make a CD then if that was offered. It's a few months
> since I did it now, so I can't remember the details; but, it comes up at the
> relevant point during Windows booting, where it asks me (on a black-and-white text
> screen) which OS I want to load, and offers me BartPE and Windows, defaulting to
> Windows after a few seconds. (I think I might have reduced that period at some
> point.)
>
> Regards, John
>>
>>
>>"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG(a)soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:u8pqZiNKXi5KFwdU(a)soft255.demon.co.uk...
>>> In message <OOmSaDdVKHA.4484(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, Tim Meddick
>>> <timmeddick(a)gawab.com> writes:
>>>>If you are absolutely intent on saving one or more System Restore Points it is
>>>>possible, but it's a bit of a hassle.
>>> []
>>>>You cannot save individual restore points because of the way that the program
>>>>saves the information about restore points in files within the "System Volume
>>>>Information" folder.
>>>>
>>> Thanks - saved for curiosity, but ...
>>>>
>>>>You are probably better off, though, downloading the [free] program ERUNT - which
>>>>teaches you all about what files constitute the Window's
>>>
>>> ... since I already have ERUNT, I think I won't be using it (the
>>> how-to-save-restore-points I mean)!
>>>
>>>>registry, how to back-up the registry and how to restore the registry in a number
>>>>of ways, including restoring the registry when you cannot start Windows!
>>>
>>> Actually, it's rather coy about that aspect. I eventually asked Lars the
>>> question, and he recommended BartPE, which I now have as a dual-boot *must get
>>> round to making the CD version).
>>>>
>>>>I highly recommend you get this utility...
>>>>
>>>>Download the program ERUNT from the link below...
>>>>http://www.aumha.org/downloads/erunt-setup.exe
>>>>
>>>>...or go to the ERUNT homepage...
>>>>http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt
>>> []
>>> One of the first things I installed after getting an XP machine!
>>> -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar(a)T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
>>> ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
>>> outdated thoughts on PCs. **
>>>
>>> I was court-martialled in my absence, and sentenced to death in my absence, so
>>> I
>>> said they could shoot me in my absence. -Brendan Francis Behan, playwright
>>> (1923-1964)
>>
>
> --
> J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar(a)T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
> ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
> outdated thoughts on PCs. **
>
> "Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum." Translation: "Garbage in, garbage out."

From: J. P. Gilliver (John) on 28 Oct 2009 18:57
In message <#GD1Vp9VKHA.1236(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, Tim Meddick
<timmeddick(a)gawab.com> writes:
>That's interesting as I don't have a CD/DVD writer - just a cd-rom

(This - a netbook - doesn't have either, though it works fine with an
external one.)

>drive, but I do have two hard-drives installed and might look into
>doing something along those lines, now that I know it's possible.

I _don't_ have two hard drives; the boot menu that offers me the two
choices, BartPE and Windows, is on the same drive (and, I think,
partition) as Windows is. And I didn't do anything special - I'm not
that good at such things; it was all set up for me as part of the BartPE
installation.
>
>BTW changing the "time-out" of the OS choices menu is as simple as
>text-editing the root-file "boot.ini" and changing the very first lines:
>
>[boot loader]
>timeout=1
>
>You may have to change the file's attributes in order to see / save the
>file. Alternatively, there's a built-in editor for the "boot.ini" file.

I probably used one of those options.
[]
>==
>
>Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
[]
There is a good reason for having your .sig delimiter as "-- " (note the
space) rather than "==".
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar(a)T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

I'm getting pretty enough for radio now (Desmond Lynam in Radio Times, 1998)
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