Can't sleep on old G4 running 10.4.11
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From: Salmon Egg on 8 Feb 2010 16:35 In article <vilain-68F5CD.10370808022010(a)news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote: > A friend asked me why her system won't sleep any more. This is a very > sudden occurrence apparently. Every day, she wakes her system, reads > email, browses the web, then puts the system back to sleep. It's a > 450MHz G4 desktop with 1.5GB memory and a 6GB disk--no extra hardware > beyond a basic system, really. > > Yesterday, the system would not stay asleep. She'd select Sleep from > the menu and the system would go to sleep, then a 1 or 2 seconds later > wake up again. I'm thinking this is hardware. It's either a bad > keyboard or mouse or a bad USB board _or_ maybe something on the network > is "pinging" the system making it wake up. She's using a Comcast cable > modem and a Vontage network box which is connected to her computer. > > I'm hoping it's something that got munged from her habit of "tidying > things up". She's destroyed 2 network cables this way, rolling them up > tight, wrapping them with rubber bands, and squishing them flat. > Otherwise, the debugging process is going to take a while and be rather > more expensive than the system is worth. > > Thoughts? I have had similar problems on a G3 and a G4 as well as a Mac Pro. As far as I can tell,the specifications on Sleep and Waking are not spelled out well by Apple. There is a button to press only once inside on the mother board that is supposed to help in such situations. You are not supposed to press it more than once. Again, it is not clear to me just what those presses do and exactly when to press. I have had more trouble waking the computer than putting it to sleep. Apple has not been very helpful in this respect. I have often put a computer to sleep only to have to reboot by holding the power button down until the computer power turns off. Although I am not certain, it seems to me that the problem could be solved by Apple by resetting some flags in the operating system. But without response from Apple, I do not know what to do. Maybe with enough clamor from users, Apple can define what happens and what to do about it. OK Apple. Do not pull a Toyota on us. Give us a guide to the various sleep problems that have been reported in recent years. I must say that my new Mac Pro running Snow Leopard has not given me this problem. Bill -- An old man would be better off never having been born.
From: John McWilliams on 8 Feb 2010 17:33 Michael Vilain wrote: > A friend asked me why her system won't sleep any more. This is a very > sudden occurrence apparently. Every day, she wakes her system, reads > email, browses the web, then puts the system back to sleep. It's a > 450MHz G4 desktop with 1.5GB memory and a 6GB disk--no extra hardware > beyond a basic system, really. > > Yesterday, the system would not stay asleep. She'd select Sleep from > the menu and the system would go to sleep, then a 1 or 2 seconds later > wake up again. I'm thinking this is hardware. It's either a bad > keyboard or mouse or a bad USB board _or_ maybe something on the network > is "pinging" the system making it wake up. She's using a Comcast cable > modem and a Vontage network box which is connected to her computer. > > I'm hoping it's something that got munged from her habit of "tidying > things up". She's destroyed 2 network cables this way, rolling them up > tight, wrapping them with rubber bands, and squishing them flat. > Otherwise, the debugging process is going to take a while and be rather > more expensive than the system is worth. > > Thoughts? Try resetting the PRAM. On a cold start, hold down Cmd-Opt.- P-R. It will chime after a bit, keep holding till the third chime. -- john mcwilliams
From: Fred Lotte on 9 Feb 2010 18:10 In article <vilain-68F5CD.10370808022010(a)news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote: > A friend asked me why her system won't sleep any more. This is a very > sudden occurrence apparently. Every day, she wakes her system, reads > email, browses the web, then puts the system back to sleep. It's a > 450MHz G4 desktop with 1.5GB memory and a 6GB disk--no extra hardware > beyond a basic system, really. > > Yesterday, the system would not stay asleep. She'd select Sleep from > the menu and the system would go to sleep, then a 1 or 2 seconds later > wake up again. I'm thinking this is hardware. It's either a bad > keyboard or mouse or a bad USB board _or_ maybe something on the network > is "pinging" the system making it wake up. She's using a Comcast cable > modem and a Vontage network box which is connected to her computer. > > I'm hoping it's something that got munged from her habit of "tidying > things up". She's destroyed 2 network cables this way, rolling them up > tight, wrapping them with rubber bands, and squishing them flat. > Otherwise, the debugging process is going to take a while and be rather > more expensive than the system is worth. > > Thoughts? Not much to add except that I have a G5 dual core 2.3 GHz running OS X 10.4.11 that goes to sleep nicely then wakes up after a few minutes. I gave up trying to make it sleep because it would sleep then wake which cycles the HD off then on about 3 times an hour for the setting I had. I think that the culprit is a Spotlight indexing program. I turned off sleep and just let it run continuously. The screens sleep after about a half hour just like I've set in energy saver. I have a G4 Al 1.33 GHz powerbook running OS X 10.4.11 that sleeps contentedly ;-) -- Fred Lotte flotte(a)nospam.stratos.net
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on 9 Feb 2010 18:43 Fred Lotte wrote: > Michael Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote: >> A friend asked me why her system won't sleep any more. This is a very >> sudden occurrence apparently. Every day, she wakes her system, reads >> email, browses the web, then puts the system back to sleep. It's a >> 450MHz G4 desktop with 1.5GB memory and a 6GB disk--no extra hardware >> beyond a basic system, really. >> >> Yesterday, the system would not stay asleep. She'd select Sleep from >> the menu and the system would go to sleep, then a 1 or 2 seconds later >> wake up again. I'm thinking this is hardware. It's either a bad >> keyboard or mouse or a bad USB board _or_ maybe something on the network >> is "pinging" the system making it wake up. She's using a Comcast cable >> modem and a Vontage network box which is connected to her computer. >> >> I'm hoping it's something that got munged from her habit of "tidying >> things up". She's destroyed 2 network cables this way, rolling them up >> tight, wrapping them with rubber bands, and squishing them flat. >> Otherwise, the debugging process is going to take a while and be rather >> more expensive than the system is worth. >> >> Thoughts? > > Not much to add except that I have a G5 dual core 2.3 GHz running > OS X 10.4.11 that goes to sleep nicely then wakes up after a few > minutes. I gave up trying to make it sleep because it would sleep > then wake which cycles the HD off then on about 3 times an hour > for the setting I had. I think that the culprit is a Spotlight > indexing program. > > I turned off sleep and just let it run continuously. The screens > sleep after about a half hour just like I've set in energy saver. Hm, can't really see, if it has been mentioned... But have you turned OFF (removed the checkmark) the 'wake on LAN' in the energy saving panel? - I found that this feature was enabled after latest Security Update, though it's always disabled here... > I have a G4 Al 1.33 GHz powerbook running OS X 10.4.11 that > sleeps contentedly ;-) So do my 17" 1,67ghz PG G4... Cheers, Erik Richard > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-manNOSP(a)Mstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com OpenOffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Bob Blaylock on 10 Feb 2010 05:15
In article <vilain-68F5CD.10370808022010(a)news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote: > Can't sleep on old G4 running 10.4.11 Perhaps you should try sleeping on a bed, instead. It's much more comfortable. -- Our enemies shall talk themselves to death, and we will bury them with their own confusion. -- Remove "HatesSpam" and ".invalid" from email address to contact me. |