From: Mike Rosenberg on
John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> Mac tech said latest Kernel panics indicate a failing GPU on iBook G4.

Which would be a hardware problem, as you've been told repeatedly by
quite a few people.

> No Mike its not RAM as I removed 1 GB RAM chip (leaving iBook with 256MB
> to run Tiger) and still got Kernel panics.

Why do you keep on saying that when you've been told repeatedly by quite
a few people that there's RAM built in to the motherboard? Sure, you've
ruled out the 1 GB DIMM, but...

> This is bad news and perhaps
> it may be time to buy a macBook Pro.

> But I may wait as 2 GB RAM and a 160GB hard drive is not much to be
> prepared for Mac OS 11 and to run XP at the same time.

Mac OS 11? How can you know what you need to prepare for an OS version
that doesn't exist anywhere, including at Apple?


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From: Mike Rosenberg on
John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> > Mac OS 11? How can you know what you need to prepare for an OS version
> > that doesn't exist anywhere, including at Apple?
>
> Ned to be prepared for whatever comes after Snow leopard. In 2005 I only
> prepared myself for Tiger.

Again, how can you know what you need to prepare for an OS version that
doesn't exist anywhere, including at Apple? I'd be surprised if Apple
isn't working on OS X 10.7 already, but how can you possibly prepare for
that? Certainly any new Mac will run the successor to Snow Leopard, but
who knows after that, and no one has ever said anything about there even
being something called Mac OS 11.

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From: Mike Rosenberg on
John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Mac OS 11? How can you know what you need to prepare for an OS version
> > > > that doesn't exist anywhere, including at Apple?
> > >
> > > Ned to be prepared for whatever comes after Snow leopard. In 2005 I only
> > > prepared myself for Tiger.
> >
> > Again, how can you know what you need to prepare for an OS version that
> > doesn't exist anywhere, including at Apple? I'd be surprised if Apple
> > isn't working on OS X 10.7 already, but how can you possibly prepare for
> > that? Certainly any new Mac will run the successor to Snow Leopard, but
> > who knows after that, and no one has ever said anything about there even
> > being something called Mac OS 11.
>
> Mike I wnat to be prepared. I am not sure about you, but as for me I
> choose to be prepared.

Okay, so let me see if I understand. You want to know if your computer
will be able to run an OS that doesn't exist, for which no
specifications are available and will not be available until some
unspecified date in the future.

What exactly do you want someone to tell you? See into the future and be
sure to buy whatever you'll need on whichever date. And be sure to carry
an umbrella because it's going to rain that day.

Seriously, John, no one can tell you what the OS after Snow Leopard will
have as requirements. Anything you buy new now will certainly be able to
run it, though. If you buy a used computer maybe not, but no one can
tell you which Intel processors will be out of the loop on a certain
date or what future RAM requirements will be. You can always upgrade the
RAM and get a bigger hard drive later, and both will cost less then, for
most any value of "then", than they do now.

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From: Don Bruder on
In article
<jwolf6589-D5E3CB.19563808022010(a)newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com>,
John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> In article <1jdlw98.7dwyba1yy6m28N%mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
> mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
>
> > John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Mac OS 11? How can you know what you need to prepare for an OS version
> > > > that doesn't exist anywhere, including at Apple?
> > >
> > > Ned to be prepared for whatever comes after Snow leopard. In 2005 I only
> > > prepared myself for Tiger.
> >
> > Again, how can you know what you need to prepare for an OS version that
> > doesn't exist anywhere, including at Apple? I'd be surprised if Apple
> > isn't working on OS X 10.7 already, but how can you possibly prepare for
> > that? Certainly any new Mac will run the successor to Snow Leopard, but
> > who knows after that, and no one has ever said anything about there even
> > being something called Mac OS 11.
>
> Mike I wnat to be prepared. I am not sure about you, but as for me I
> choose to be prepared.
>
>
> John

Here ya go, John - the list of imaginary specs required to run an as-yet
still imaginary version of Mac OS, straight off the imaginary box I just
imagined I ran out to Best Buy and bought.

Requires a minimum of 16 20GHz quad-core Intel Generation VI 18 micron
process CPUs, each with a minimum of 3 gigs of level 1 cache (8 gigs
recommended), plus 10 gigs of level 2 cache per core
No less than 32 terabytes of quantum interference RAM - 64 terabytes
highly recommended.
180 Petabytes of free disk space - SSD is highly recommended (Note:
Installation of optional developer tools will require an additional 26
Petabytes)
Graphics card capable of displaying holographic imagery at a resolution
of no less than 1024x1024x1024 pixels per cubic centimeter through the
built-in WozView eye-phone port (Note: Machines not equipped with the
WozView port are not capable of running Mac OS 11)
SOGO-7 data gloves, Revision 18.2.11 or later. Notice: In compliance
with the recent decision handed down by the EU supreme council on
worldwide copyright enforcement, previous revisions ARE NOT compatible.
24 Gigabit/second JobsNet connection recommended

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From: Steven Fisher on
On 2010-02-08 14:11:33 -0800, John said:

> Mac tech said latest Kernel panics indicate a failing GPU on iBook G4.

Was this before or after the "See Mike its software" thread?