From: FF on
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:40:00 -0800 (PST), Tonico wrote:

>>> Transfer Principle wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So I was hoping to find a phrase other than "standard theorist" that
>>>> MoeBlee and others would find less objectionable.

How about "classical mathematician"? Then there are intuitionists,
finitists, etc. But NONE of the latter may be considered a _crank_ (just
for not being a _classical_ mathematician). The other was round, NONE of
the well know Usenet cranks is a representative of non-classical math.

FF
From: zuhair on
On Feb 12, 9:51 pm, Transfer Principle <lwal...(a)lausd.net> wrote:
> On Feb 12, 5:42 pm, Nam Nguyen <namducngu...(a)shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > Transfer Principle wrote:
> > > So I was hoping to find a phrase other than "standard theorist" that
> > > MoeBlee and others would find less objectionable.
> > AK seemed to have used the term "conformist", "orthodox"
>
> Interesting idea. I might consider using either of Aatu's terms.
>
> > [You] seem to have applied different definitions of same same word to
> > different people at different times.
>
> My definition of "crank" is always evolving. Whenever several posters
> criticize my definition of "crank," I try to re-analyze my definition
> of
> "crank" in order to come up with a more satisfactory definition.
>
> Case in point: Originally I called Y-V a "crank." After several
> posters
> complained, they convinced me that Y-V isn't a "crank." So now I
> don't consider Y-V to be a "crank" anymore.

Hi lawl

I think it is better to classify the writings rather than the
persons. You can say
that this topic is written in a cranky style, or according to the
standard way, or
contain erroneous material, or misleading, or not clear, etc..

Just an idea

Regards

Zuhair

From: OP on
zuhair wrote:
>
> Hi lawl
>
> I think it is better to classify the writings rather than the
> persons. You can say
> that this topic is written in a cranky style, or according to the
> standard way, or
> contain erroneous material, or misleading, or not clear, etc..
>
> Just an idea

That is a great idea, and would defuse a lot of the ill-will
associated with the personalization of many discussions. If it's
possible to restrict one's input to the merits or demerits of an
argument, rather than imagining that one is responding to the
character of a disembodied usenet interlocutor, think how easy it
would be to ignore "attacks" - there would be literally nothing to
respond to.