Car Rust Neg vs. Pos Chassis
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From: George Jefferson on 7 Apr 2010 23:19 "Artemus" <bogus(a)invalid.org> wrote in message news:hpis4k$n5g$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "George Jefferson" <George(a)Jefferson.com> wrote in message > news:hphesb$vvm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> I don't know but every time I get out of my new car I get zapped. Never >> happened before. Maybe the friction driving creates static electricity >> and >> this could potentially create rust? Oxidation has to be somewhere in the >> equation though and static electricity much less when the humidity is >> high. >> > The static charge is caused by you sliding in/out over the seat not the > motion > of the car thru the air or over the road. > 2 fixes: hold on to some metal part of the car before sliding on the > seat; and > spray the seat (lightly) with an anti-static fabric softener sold for > laundry use. > Art > That makes sense as that is something that drastically changed(type of seat and height/position). Strange I have never had it happen in any other vehicle. Since I get shocked even if I drive short distances it seems to make sense that it probably isn't the driving.
From: Capt. Cave Man on 7 Apr 2010 23:57 On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:19:05 -0500, "George Jefferson" <George(a)Jefferson.com> wrote: > > >"Artemus" <bogus(a)invalid.org> wrote in message >news:hpis4k$n5g$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "George Jefferson" <George(a)Jefferson.com> wrote in message >> news:hphesb$vvm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> I don't know but every time I get out of my new car I get zapped. Never >>> happened before. Maybe the friction driving creates static electricity >>> and >>> this could potentially create rust? Oxidation has to be somewhere in the >>> equation though and static electricity much less when the humidity is >>> high. >>> >> The static charge is caused by you sliding in/out over the seat not the >> motion >> of the car thru the air or over the road. >> 2 fixes: hold on to some metal part of the car before sliding on the >> seat; and >> spray the seat (lightly) with an anti-static fabric softener sold for >> laundry use. >> Art >> > >That makes sense as that is something that drastically changed(type of seat >and height/position). Strange I have never had it happen in any other >vehicle. Since I get shocked even if I drive short distances it seems to >make sense that it probably isn't the driving. > It amounts to what the seat fabric is comprised of. Sheesh, this stuff is elementary school basic level stuff. You charge up unless you get grounded. When you touch ground, you get shocked because the ground you touched was a fast discharge point. The charge is from the trib-electric effect from you rubbing against the seat, while being isolated from ground. You gain charge..
From: ehsjr on 8 Apr 2010 00:15 Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Robert Baer wrote: > >>Robert Dorset wrote: >> >>>Someone told me that cars manufactured in the UK that have a positive >>>chassis electrical system, as opposed to negative, do not suffer from >>>rust. >>> >>>Is this true? Can anyone there confirm? >>> >>>Robert Dorset >> >> This is a NO BRAINER...Aint no difference; use a _little_ sanity here... > > > > Invoke the Sanity Clause! > > I thought you could do that only in December.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 8 Apr 2010 02:44 ehsjr wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Robert Baer wrote: > > > >>Robert Dorset wrote: > >> > >>>Someone told me that cars manufactured in the UK that have a positive > >>>chassis electrical system, as opposed to negative, do not suffer from > >>>rust. > >>> > >>>Is this true? Can anyone there confirm? > >>> > >>>Robert Dorset > >> > >> This is a NO BRAINER...Aint no difference; use a _little_ sanity here... > > > > > > > > Invoke the Sanity Clause! > > > > > > I thought you could do that only in December. Not if you listen to car dealers. :( -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida http://www.flickr.com/photos/materrell/
From: Beryl on 8 Apr 2010 02:58
Capt. Cave Man wrote: > On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:19:05 -0500, "George Jefferson" > <George(a)Jefferson.com> wrote: > >> >> "Artemus" <bogus(a)invalid.org> wrote in message >> news:hpis4k$n5g$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> "George Jefferson" <George(a)Jefferson.com> wrote in message >>> news:hphesb$vvm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> I don't know but every time I get out of my new car I get zapped. Never >>>> happened before. Maybe the friction driving creates static electricity >>>> and >>>> this could potentially create rust? Oxidation has to be somewhere in the >>>> equation though and static electricity much less when the humidity is >>>> high. >>>> >>> The static charge is caused by you sliding in/out over the seat not the >>> motion >>> of the car thru the air or over the road. >>> 2 fixes: hold on to some metal part of the car before sliding on the >>> seat; and >>> spray the seat (lightly) with an anti-static fabric softener sold for >>> laundry use. >>> Art >>> >> That makes sense as that is something that drastically changed(type of seat >> and height/position). Strange I have never had it happen in any other >> vehicle. Since I get shocked even if I drive short distances it seems to >> make sense that it probably isn't the driving. >> > > > It amounts to what the seat fabric is comprised of. Sheesh, this stuff > is elementary school basic level stuff. You charge up unless you get > grounded. When you touch ground, you get shocked because the ground you > touched was a fast discharge point. > > The charge is from the trib-electric effect from you rubbing against > the seat, while being isolated from ground. You gain charge.. Tom says the main problem is the tires. http://www.cartalk.com/content/columns/Archive/1997/October/01.html Tom suggests static-discharge strips that hang off the bottom of the car. Wow, I haven't seen those things for a looong time. |