From: Robert Baer on
Capt. Cave Man wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:19:05 -0500, "George Jefferson"
> <George(a)Jefferson.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Artemus" <bogus(a)invalid.org> wrote in message
>> news:hpis4k$n5g$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> "George Jefferson" <George(a)Jefferson.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hphesb$vvm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> I don't know but every time I get out of my new car I get zapped. Never
>>>> happened before. Maybe the friction driving creates static electricity
>>>> and
>>>> this could potentially create rust? Oxidation has to be somewhere in the
>>>> equation though and static electricity much less when the humidity is
>>>> high.
>>>>
>>> The static charge is caused by you sliding in/out over the seat not the
>>> motion
>>> of the car thru the air or over the road.
>>> 2 fixes: hold on to some metal part of the car before sliding on the
>>> seat; and
>>> spray the seat (lightly) with an anti-static fabric softener sold for
>>> laundry use.
>>> Art
>>>
>> That makes sense as that is something that drastically changed(type of seat
>> and height/position). Strange I have never had it happen in any other
>> vehicle. Since I get shocked even if I drive short distances it seems to
>> make sense that it probably isn't the driving.
>>
>
>
> It amounts to what the seat fabric is comprised of. Sheesh, this stuff
> is elementary school basic level stuff. You charge up unless you get
> grounded. When you touch ground, you get shocked because the ground you
> touched was a fast discharge point.
>
> The charge is from the trib-electric effect from you rubbing against
> the seat, while being isolated from ground. You gain charge..
....you mean that i do not have to go on a diet?
From: krw on
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 02:44:34 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

>ehsjr wrote:
>>
>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>> > Robert Baer wrote:
>> >
>> >>Robert Dorset wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Someone told me that cars manufactured in the UK that have a positive
>> >>>chassis electrical system, as opposed to negative, do not suffer from
>> >>>rust.
>> >>>
>> >>>Is this true? Can anyone there confirm?
>> >>>
>> >>>Robert Dorset
>> >>
>> >> This is a NO BRAINER...Aint no difference; use a _little_ sanity here...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Invoke the Sanity Clause!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I thought you could do that only in December.
>
>
> Not if you listen to car dealers. :(

....or Crazy Eddie.
From: legg on
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:51:41 GMT, robertdorset(a)campfour.com (Robert
Dorset) wrote:

>Someone told me that cars manufactured in the UK that have a positive
>chassis electrical system, as opposed to negative, do not suffer from
>rust.
>
>Is this true? Can anyone there confirm?
>
>Robert Dorset

You may be thinking of differing types of galvanic corrosion or
selective leaching and the effect of various cathodic protection
methods.

The effect can be aggravated by temperature gradients and aqueous
solutions produced in and around the internal combustion engine; for
example; in the mounting joists using poorly selected materials, or in
a widely-braced water cooling system.

As electrical contact to the frame will be made in many places using
dissimilar metals (both not being steel or iron or aluminium), you
could expect a galvanic potential to develop that might be over-ridden
at times, by the correct polarity of normal operating current flow, or
regularly, by the introduction of a sacrificial anode.

As the effect is going to be localized, it will probably be identified
at the early stages of any product's life, and suitable methods of
avoiding it adopted. The automobile is not a product in the early
stages of development, but I can imagine each generation of designers
demanding to know 'why I can't do that'.....

RL
From: Michael A. Terrell on

"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
>
> On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 02:44:34 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >ehsjr wrote:
> >>
> >> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >> > Robert Baer wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Robert Dorset wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Someone told me that cars manufactured in the UK that have a positive
> >> >>>chassis electrical system, as opposed to negative, do not suffer from
> >> >>>rust.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Is this true? Can anyone there confirm?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Robert Dorset
> >> >>
> >> >> This is a NO BRAINER...Aint no difference; use a _little_ sanity here...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Invoke the Sanity Clause!
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I thought you could do that only in December.
> >
> >
> > Not if you listen to car dealers. :(
>
> ...or Crazy Eddie.


The one on news:rec.crafts.metalworking? ;-)


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