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From: Rob on 1 May 2010 05:29 On 30/04/2010 09:37, SM wrote: > D.M. Procida<real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote: > >> Rob<patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Has anyone had any luck with a references/citation manager? I need >>> something to catalogue masses of PDF files, have a decent stab at >>> extracting the metadata, and have the ability to export/work within a >>> word processor, preferably Word for compatibility reasons. >>> >>> And, and this seems to be the killer, work using the Harvard system. >>> Papers would have been good if it wasn't for this. >> >> The Harvard system is completely disgusting, but can't Endnote do most >> of what you want to do? > Possibly - but �160. I'll ask at work and see if copy balgging is an option. > Endnote is fairly disgusting, maybe try Bookends. > > <http://www.sonnysoftware.com/bookends/bookends.html> > > Stuart I seem to be getting somewhere slowly. No Harvard built in but looks customisable to the extent I need, thanks.
From: Rob on 1 May 2010 05:31 On 30/04/2010 10:49, chris wrote: > On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:52:24 +0100, Rob <patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Has anyone had any luck with a references/citation manager? I need >> something to catalogue masses of PDF files, have a decent stab at >> extracting the metadata, and have the ability to export/work within a >> word processor, preferably Word for compatibility reasons. >> >> And, and this seems to be the killer, work using the Harvard system. >> Papers would have been good if it wasn't for this. >> > > Zotero? It's a firefox extension, but it also has plugins for Word and > OpenOffice. Me likes it lots! Yes, thanks, not bad at all, and the only one with native Harvard. Not very good at cataloguing though (can't seem to fnd DOIs for example), but this would have been good if I was starting out. Rob
From: Rob on 1 May 2010 05:35 On 30/04/2010 11:09, Tim Hodgson wrote: > Rob<patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Has anyone had any luck with a references/citation manager? I need >> something to catalogue masses of PDF files, have a decent stab at >> extracting the metadata, and have the ability to export/work within a >> word processor, preferably Word for compatibility reasons. >> >> And, and this seems to be the killer, work using the Harvard system. >> Papers would have been good if it wasn't for this. >> >> Thanks, Rob > > It might be worth looking at BibDesk. It's mainly aimed at LaTeX users, > but I think has other export options. And it's free. Looks neat - but I can't seem to get it to read DOI information. I've got thousands of PDFs and it's going to be too much to catalogue them all. Thanks anyway. Rob
From: SM on 1 May 2010 08:14 Rob <patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 30/04/2010 09:37, SM wrote: > > D.M. Procida<real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote: > > > >> Rob<patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Has anyone had any luck with a references/citation manager? I need > >>> something to catalogue masses of PDF files, have a decent stab at > >>> extracting the metadata, and have the ability to export/work within a > >>> word processor, preferably Word for compatibility reasons. > >>> > >>> And, and this seems to be the killer, work using the Harvard system. > >>> Papers would have been good if it wasn't for this. > >> > >> The Harvard system is completely disgusting, but can't Endnote do most > >> of what you want to do? > > > > Possibly - but �160. I'll ask at work and see if copy balgging is an option. > > > Endnote is fairly disgusting, maybe try Bookends. > > > > <http://www.sonnysoftware.com/bookends/bookends.html> > > > > Stuart > > I seem to be getting somewhere slowly. No Harvard built in but looks > customisable to the extent I need, thanks. It can do Harvard - go to the Biblio menu > Bibliograhy Formatter... It's a while since I set it up (and it's V10 so the current version might be different) but I think there was a Harvard preset which needed to be customised to fit in with a particular institution's take on 'Harvard'. Bookends now seems to integrate quite nicely with Delicious Library and DevonThink which could be handy for me. I was mainly using Bookends with Mellel whose respective developers seem to collaborate on integrating the two programs; I think it's slightly more clunky with Word. Stuart -- cut that out to reply
From: Rob on 1 May 2010 09:17
On 01/05/2010 13:14, SM wrote: > Rob<patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 30/04/2010 09:37, SM wrote: >>> D.M. Procida<real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Rob<patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Has anyone had any luck with a references/citation manager? I need >>>>> something to catalogue masses of PDF files, have a decent stab at >>>>> extracting the metadata, and have the ability to export/work within a >>>>> word processor, preferably Word for compatibility reasons. >>>>> >>>>> And, and this seems to be the killer, work using the Harvard system. >>>>> Papers would have been good if it wasn't for this. >>>> >>>> The Harvard system is completely disgusting, but can't Endnote do most >>>> of what you want to do? >>> >> >> Possibly - but �160. I'll ask at work and see if copy balgging is an option. >> >>> Endnote is fairly disgusting, maybe try Bookends. >>> >>> <http://www.sonnysoftware.com/bookends/bookends.html> >>> >>> Stuart >> >> I seem to be getting somewhere slowly. No Harvard built in but looks >> customisable to the extent I need, thanks. > > It can do Harvard - go to the Biblio menu> Bibliograhy Formatter... > > It's a while since I set it up (and it's V10 so the current version > might be different) but I think there was a Harvard preset which needed > to be customised to fit in with a particular institution's take on > 'Harvard'. > > Bookends now seems to integrate quite nicely with Delicious Library and > DevonThink which could be handy for me. I was mainly using Bookends with > Mellel whose respective developers seem to collaborate on integrating > the two programs; I think it's slightly more clunky with Word. > > Stuart Yep, thanks - more I look at it the better it seems. No short cuts with a 300 page manual ;-) I can't go changing word processors - it is clunky with Word, but drag/drop seems OK. At the moment, Papers seems to do what I need most quickly and at least cost: import documents fairly painlessly, export references to Word's built in manager, then add an XML to the Word package so they're formatted correctly. Several bizarre results, but it seems along the right lines. Rob |