From: Pd on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > > Proof: <http://bit.ly/b6OwmF>
> > >
> > > <gasp!> Oh noes! We is ruined!
> >
> > I wouldn't know, since not being stupid, I'm certainly not going to
> > follow a link looking like that.
> >
> > However, Jim's doing his usual job of `Oh dear, now I've been found out,
> > I'll switch to sneering childishly'.
> >
> > You really do need to grow up, Jim.
>
> You really need to follow that link rather than just post an insult
> based on what you *assume* I mean. Dear boy.

That rather depends on the desired outcome.

> And just to help you out (aren't I kind?) here's the expanded link:
> <http://twitpic.com/1lh4ne/full>
> Happy now? Good.

Damn you, my url obfuscation is laid bare.

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From: J. J. Lodder on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
>
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > > [1] Except for Stefan Haller, author of MacSoup, who has not equipped
> > > that particular bit of software with anything to spy on users, no matter
> > > what any clearly mad and apparently Dutch people might claim.
> >
> > Sure, you have to activate the spyware feature yourself.
> > But we've been over that before,
>
> For those who might be worried:
>
> Jan thinks that MacSoup is `spyware' because when you post to Usenet, it
> includes a User-Agent header, which secretly informs some secret agency
> all about your personal, private information.

Speak for yourself.

> Well, actually, it
> doesn't - it just tells the world that you are using MacSoup.

Nothing wrong with a vanity tag.

> If that's spyware, then Jan's a Togolese.

Again, speak for yourself,
don't try to tell the world what I might have said,
in your opinion,

Jan
From: J. J. Lodder on
James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote:

> On 2010-05-06 18:36:32 +0100, jim(a)magrathea.plus.com (Jim) said:
>
> > James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks, I was a little curious as to what was meant by the spyware. Thanks.
> >
> > Specifically, it tells the world what version of the MacOS you're using.
> >
> > I've had this filed under "who the Hell cares" for a long, long time.
> >
> > Jim
>
> Fair enough. I wonder what is actually gained though? Why should the
> specific OS version be important?

It is completely unimporatnt,
but it is WRONG to publish information about others,
without asking them, or allowing them to say no.

Jan
From: Rowland McDonnell on
J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
> >
> > > Basil Jet <johnr(a)journeyflow.spamspam.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > > > Basil Jet<johnr(a)journeyflow.spamspam.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> As someone who recently migrated from PCs, I'd like to start doing
> > > > >> internet banking on my Mac... how can I check my Mac for snooping
> > > > >> software?
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't worry, be happy.
> > > > >
> > > > > You've got a Mac, remember?
> > > >
> > > > I'm new to this, remember. I don't want to be paranoid but I don't want
> > > > to be naive either.
> > >
> > > If you don't respond to phishing emails
> > > you should be perfectly safe,
> >
> > Only if you also download nothing from the P2P networks.
> >
> > I've not heard of Macs being infected via emails.
>
> I've heard of bank accounts being emptied by phishing.
> Having a Mac has nothing to do with it.
> It is all caused by having your email adress given away
> by windoze computers whch were broken into.

Which is a good way of warning people that the sort of computer they
have is irrelevant to the fact that they remain vulnerable to
computer-based crime and other anti-social behaviour.

To put it another way: your suggestion that one should not worry because
he has a Mac is reckessly bad advice if only because no matter how
secure the software might be, the user is always a weak point and fraud
is therefore possible.

And with computers, fraud can put dodgy software on your computer
leading to endless *hidden* trouble.

Rowland.

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From: Jim on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

<snip the usual>

So did you actually follow the link?

I'm guessing 'no'.

Jim
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