From: Sheik Quassam on
Ohh moy dorogoy russki durak
Vot eto pochemu ya pokinul nashu stranu durakov.
From: Modafanil on
"Sheik Quassam" <Quassam(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> They usually come from China or Spain or Russia.
>
> But look dont' despair, the opposite is also happening.
> We Western countries use thei rimmigrant brains while paying them LESS,
> e.g. 40% of Microsoft's best preoducts were coded by non-US born
> engineers.
>
> So they stole your work. But many US comnpanies use THEIR work. It flows
> in both directions.
>
> Try using "Keeloq" - a free tool for Microchip microcontrollers, in case
> you're writing for Microchip, or a similar encryptor.
>
> I know it feels very very bad to sit & kill your health & eyes in front of
> a computer to write software, so some punk would steal it.
>
> Don't publish source code anymore, LOCK your chips with Keeloq or similar.

Thanks for the support, Sheik. You're cool!


From: George Neuner on
On Sat, 15 May 2010 23:04:36 -0600, hamilton <hamilton(a)nothere.com>
wrote:

>On 5/15/2010 6:27 PM, George Neuner wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 May 2010 02:12:34 +0200, Nils<n.pipenbrinck(a)cubic.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Modafinil wrote:
>>>> Thank you to Ainhoa Ortiz Delgado and Antonio Tejada Revilla, of the
>>>> University of the Basque Country in Spain. http://www.ehu.es/
>>>
>>> Call their professor or their dean. European universities take
>>> plagiarism serious. I'm sure they will be glad to know what happened.
>>
>> If the OP can prove authorship, the university will likely take it
>> *very* seriously. Proving authorship is, of course, the catch.
>
>You did not look at the code referenced.

I don't have to look at it.

In a copyright dispute the plaintiff has to prove a) that the work is
their own or that they own or control the rights to it, and b) that
the work was copied by the defendant (willful copying or not makes a
difference in restitution but not to verdict).

To prove in court that the work is your own, you must have one or more
of the following:

- witnesses to its creation

- a version history which leads to the finished work

- a larger work which has both proven authorship and
which incorporates the disputed work

Without at least one of these, it is nearly impossible to prove
authorship. The OP said nothing about any of this and a file on a web
site is not proof of anything.

With a university, their plagiarism policy may be a lower bar to
hurdle, but even so, their lawyers will have to be convinced to get
any settlement beyond a private apology.


I don't know whether the OP's work was stolen or not. If it was, I
sympathize and I hope the OP can get satisfaction. All I said was
that it won't necessarily be easy.


>nuff said.

George
From: Ignacio G. T. on
El 16/05/2010 15:02, Sheik Quassam escribi�:
> They usually come from China or Spain or Russia.
>
> But look dont' despair, the opposite is also happening.
> We Western countries...

Last night Spain was a western country. Has something changed while I
was sleeping?



From: Modafanil on

"George Neuner" <gneuner2(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 15 May 2010 23:04:36 -0600, hamilton <hamilton(a)nothere.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 5/15/2010 6:27 PM, George Neuner wrote:
>>> On Sun, 16 May 2010 02:12:34 +0200, Nils<n.pipenbrinck(a)cubic.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Modafinil wrote:
>>>>> Thank you to Ainhoa Ortiz Delgado and Antonio Tejada Revilla, of the
>>>>> University of the Basque Country in Spain. http://www.ehu.es/
>>>>
>>>> Call their professor or their dean. European universities take
>>>> plagiarism serious. I'm sure they will be glad to know what happened.
>>>
>>> If the OP can prove authorship, the university will likely take it
>>> *very* seriously. Proving authorship is, of course, the catch.
>>
>>You did not look at the code referenced.
>
> I don't have to look at it.
>
> In a copyright dispute the plaintiff has to prove a) that the work is
> their own or that they own or control the rights to it, and b) that
> the work was copied by the defendant (willful copying or not makes a
> difference in restitution but not to verdict).
>
> To prove in court that the work is your own, you must have one or more
> of the following:
>
> - witnesses to its creation
>
> - a version history which leads to the finished work
>
> - a larger work which has both proven authorship and
> which incorporates the disputed work
>
> Without at least one of these, it is nearly impossible to prove
> authorship. The OP said nothing about any of this and a file on a web
> site is not proof of anything.
>
> With a university, their plagiarism policy may be a lower bar to
> hurdle, but even so, their lawyers will have to be convinced to get
> any settlement beyond a private apology.
>
>
> I don't know whether the OP's work was stolen or not. If it was, I
> sympathize and I hope the OP can get satisfaction. All I said was
> that it won't necessarily be easy.
>
>
>>nuff said.
>
> George

An interesting and informative post, George. Thanks for that.