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From: Kevin Nathan on 19 Feb 2010 13:58
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 08:58:41 +0100
houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote:

>I did some 'normal' surfing last night and also noticed nothing special
>in speed.
>

I agree with you, especially on 'normal' or 'casual' surfing. Most
speed differences between browsers are barely detectable by simple
observation, because of the vagaries of internet connections and server
loads.

There is one site I use a lot that regularly takes between ten and
sixty seconds to load some pages (with heavy javascript use, too) and I
have just ascribed it to server load and poorly written javascript and
HTML these last few months. I could not use Opera, Seamonkey or
Konqueror on them because they choked on different parts of the site
(hence my impulse to ascribe delay to poorly written js). However,
updating Firefox two days ago has drastically reduced those wait times.
For the last two days, those same pages have been loading between zero
and ten seconds.

I suppose it's *possible* they rolled out drastic improvements to their
code base at the same time I updated Firefox... :-)


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From: Kevin Nathan on 19 Feb 2010 19:08
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:40:44 +0100
houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote:

>I understand that you don't tell us what pages they are. I know of
>those pages laden with scripts and what not. ;-)
>

ROFL! No, not what you think. :-)

It's actually a social network game (Mafia Wars) to which I have become
addicted; thus the patience to wait for long page loads... ;-D


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From: John Bowling on 25 Feb 2010 13:33
Patrick Phillips wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:48:06 -0700
> John Bowling <johnlb2002(a)cox.net> wrote:
>
>> There is something else openSUSE does with updates. With Firefox, they
>> (apparently) advance the version numbers differently than Mozilla
>> does. Mozilla Firefox download is now at 3.6 and Firefox on openSUSE
>> is 3.5.6. And 3.6 has been out there for several months now.
>>
>> This causes problems with some plugins. If you install the version
>> from Mozilla using their recommended method, it will NOT change the
>> version number that is displayed, hence when you go to download
>> plugins, it looks for 3.5 version plugins that don't work with 3.6.
>>
>> This arises the question: What version are you really running?
>> Is it 3.5 plain, or enhanced to be more like 3.6?
>> 3.6 is supposed to start up and display pages a lot faster, yet my
>> 3.5.6 takes some time to start up.
>
> Firefox 3.6 has been in the repositories for a week or so, its listed
> if you look...not sure what its name was [I'm not in OS now]
> other than probably listed as "firefox 3.6", it transferred all my
> bookmarks and settings and compatible plugins, and removes old
> 3.5x version, uses same Firefox icon if I remember right.
>
> Try it..Firefox 3.6 seems faster or as fast as Chrome now!
>
> If you don't see it listed look for it at openSuse one-click install
> web site at http://software.opensuse.org/search
> select your OS version before search.
>
> --
> Patrick in IL.

If it is there, it's very well hidden. for 11.1, the only items with 3.6
are:

MozillaFirefox-translations-common
MozillaFirefox-translations-other

MozillaFirefox only lists 3.5.6

And I have the Mozilla build service repository enabled.

Did they fix the problem with Recent Pages? In 3.5.6 is lists nothing.
From: John Bowling on 25 Feb 2010 13:39
John Bowling wrote:

> Patrick Phillips wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:48:06 -0700
>> John Bowling <johnlb2002(a)cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> There is something else openSUSE does with updates. With Firefox, they
>>> (apparently) advance the version numbers differently than Mozilla
>>> does. Mozilla Firefox download is now at 3.6 and Firefox on openSUSE
>>> is 3.5.6. And 3.6 has been out there for several months now.
>>>
>>> This causes problems with some plugins. If you install the version
>>> from Mozilla using their recommended method, it will NOT change the
>>> version number that is displayed, hence when you go to download
>>> plugins, it looks for 3.5 version plugins that don't work with 3.6.
>>>
>>> This arises the question: What version are you really running?
>>> Is it 3.5 plain, or enhanced to be more like 3.6?
>>> 3.6 is supposed to start up and display pages a lot faster, yet my
>>> 3.5.6 takes some time to start up.
>>
>> Firefox 3.6 has been in the repositories for a week or so, its listed
>> if you look...not sure what its name was [I'm not in OS now]
>> other than probably listed as "firefox 3.6", it transferred all my
>> bookmarks and settings and compatible plugins, and removes old
>> 3.5x version, uses same Firefox icon if I remember right.
>>
>> Try it..Firefox 3.6 seems faster or as fast as Chrome now!
>>
>> If you don't see it listed look for it at openSuse one-click install
>> web site at http://software.opensuse.org/search
>> select your OS version before search.
>>
>> --
>> Patrick in IL.
>
> If it is there, it's very well hidden. for 11.1, the only items with 3.6
> are:
>
> MozillaFirefox-translations-common
> MozillaFirefox-translations-other
>
> MozillaFirefox only lists 3.5.6
>
> And I have the Mozilla build service repository enabled.
>
> Did they fix the problem with Recent Pages? In 3.5.6 is lists nothing.

I clicked to install the MozillaFirefox-translations-common and it proceeded
to install firefox 3.6.

That is a very misleading way of doing something - firefox 3.6 needs to be
listed - it's there and hidden.

From: WLS on 25 Feb 2010 15:40
On 02/25/2010 01:39 PM, John Bowling wrote:
> John Bowling wrote:
>
>> Patrick Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:48:06 -0700
>>> John Bowling <johnlb2002(a)cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is something else openSUSE does with updates. With Firefox, they
>>>> (apparently) advance the version numbers differently than Mozilla
>>>> does. Mozilla Firefox download is now at 3.6 and Firefox on openSUSE
>>>> is 3.5.6. And 3.6 has been out there for several months now.
>>>>
>>>> This causes problems with some plugins. If you install the version
>>>> from Mozilla using their recommended method, it will NOT change the
>>>> version number that is displayed, hence when you go to download
>>>> plugins, it looks for 3.5 version plugins that don't work with 3.6.
>>>>
>>>> This arises the question: What version are you really running?
>>>> Is it 3.5 plain, or enhanced to be more like 3.6?
>>>> 3.6 is supposed to start up and display pages a lot faster, yet my
>>>> 3.5.6 takes some time to start up.
>>>
>>> Firefox 3.6 has been in the repositories for a week or so, its listed
>>> if you look...not sure what its name was [I'm not in OS now]
>>> other than probably listed as "firefox 3.6", it transferred all my
>>> bookmarks and settings and compatible plugins, and removes old
>>> 3.5x version, uses same Firefox icon if I remember right.
>>>
>>> Try it..Firefox 3.6 seems faster or as fast as Chrome now!
>>>
>>> If you don't see it listed look for it at openSuse one-click install
>>> web site at http://software.opensuse.org/search
>>> select your OS version before search.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Patrick in IL.
>>
>> If it is there, it's very well hidden. for 11.1, the only items with 3.6
>> are:
>>
>> MozillaFirefox-translations-common
>> MozillaFirefox-translations-other
>>
>> MozillaFirefox only lists 3.5.6
>>
>> And I have the Mozilla build service repository enabled.
>>
>> Did they fix the problem with Recent Pages? In 3.5.6 is lists nothing.
>
> I clicked to install the MozillaFirefox-translations-common and it proceeded
> to install firefox 3.6.
>
> That is a very misleading way of doing something - firefox 3.6 needs to be
> listed - it's there and hidden.
>

I was using Firefox 3.5.7 and had the Mozilla build service repository
enabled. Recently deleted it, and the other day Firefox updated to
version 3.5.8 through the repo-update repository.

Then again, I am using Gnome and was informed today that an update to
KDE 4.3.5 was available through online update, So now I'll have that
nagging me for the remainder of my openSUSE 11.2 life cycle.


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