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From: Leythos on 12 Aug 2010 08:05
In article <3CCC3204-166E-4062-9612-FA56FF99D705(a)microsoft.com>,
ChrisUK(a)discussions.microsoft.com says...
>
> Hi,
>
> I know this isn't strictly a SBS question but I'm hoping someone can answer
> me a simple (I hope) question.
>
> My SBS network has outgrown it's current office and we need to get a couple
> of PC's, telephones and a printer put in another office about 40 meters away.
>
> To get a bit of breathing space I want 10 data points in this new office (we
> will only need 5). My local voice / data installers are wanting to run 10
> cat5e cables to this new office so will require around 500 meters of cabling
> and "x" amount of time for wages.
>
> I have a Dell PowerConnect 2816 in my main office. Instead of running 10 new
> cables, could I get another PowerConnect 2816 and put it in the new office
> and run 1 cable connecting the switches?
>
> These new pc's won't be heavy network users so hopefully there won't be
> bottleneck issues...
>
> Thoughts? Is this possible with powerconnect 2816's? I've looked at the
> specs on the dell website but I'm not certain.

Using switches to bridge between areas on a building is common - we
normally install switches on each floor of a building and run a fiber
cable between them (because of distance), but on shorter runs we often
trunk several ports on each switch to get more bandwidth between them.

In a small office setting, your 100mbps switch would be fine for most
uses, but, you may want to consider 8/12/16/24 port GB switches with
some form of management interface that permits you to see errors on each
port, as a diagnostic tool. A typical non-CISCO 24 port GB switch runs
about $280 and provides diagnostic features not found in unmanaged
switches.

I would strongly encourage you to install at least 2 cables between each
location, one as a spare - if something happens and you don't have that
spare you're going to pay for it anyway.

Of all the things I read in your post, the idea that you're using RAID-0
bothers me more than anything - the massive increase possible failure
for using RAID-0 vs RAID-1 makes it impractical for most applications.


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From: Steve Foster on 12 Aug 2010 10:21
ChrisUK wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I know this isn't strictly a SBS question but I'm hoping someone can
> answer me a simple (I hope) question.
>
> My SBS network has outgrown it's current office and we need to get a
> couple of PC's, telephones and a printer put in another office about
> 40 meters away.
>
> To get a bit of breathing space I want 10 data points in this new
> office (we will only need 5). My local voice / data installers are
> wanting to run 10 cat5e cables to this new office so will require
> around 500 meters of cabling and "x" amount of time for wages.
>
> I have a Dell PowerConnect 2816 in my main office. Instead of running
> 10 new cables, could I get another PowerConnect 2816 and put it in
> the new office and run 1 cable connecting the switches?
>
> These new pc's won't be heavy network users so hopefully there won't
> be bottleneck issues...
>
> Thoughts? Is this possible with powerconnect 2816's? I've looked at
> the specs on the dell website but I'm not certain.

You can extend networks by daisy-chaining switches almost to infinity
with *any* switches (as long as they _are_ switches, and not hubs).

Of greater concern should be bandwidth - if you're aggregating traffic
from multiple devices to then pass that traffic from switch to switch,
you really want the inter-switch connections (commonly referred to as
trunks) to have higher capacity than the switch-device connections.
This usually translates to a gigabit connection between switches if the
clients connect at 100Mbps.

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From: Steve Foster on 12 Aug 2010 10:22
Leythos wrote:

> Of all the things I read in your post, the idea that you're using
> RAID-0 bothers me more than anything - the massive increase possible
> failure for using RAID-0 vs RAID-1 makes it impractical for most
> applications.

Odd, I don't see any mention of RAID in the OP at all (nor mention of
second servers, either!).

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From: Leythos on 12 Aug 2010 15:33
In article <xn0gxsrgiyq3p1401i(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
stevefoster(a)invalid.invalid says...
>
> Leythos wrote:
>
> > Of all the things I read in your post, the idea that you're using
> > RAID-0 bothers me more than anything - the massive increase possible
> > failure for using RAID-0 vs RAID-1 makes it impractical for most
> > applications.
>
> Odd, I don't see any mention of RAID in the OP at all (nor mention of
> second servers, either!).

I'm getting old, confused part of this thread with another I was
thinking of responding to.

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From: ChrisUK on 13 Aug 2010 05:43
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the information, as always it was very helpful.

I will definitely get a spare cable ran just in case.

Bandwidth shouldn't be a problem, it's just going to be 2 "light" users.

out of interest I do have RAID-1 on my OS drive and RAID-5 on my data :-)

"Steve Foster" wrote:

> ChrisUK wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I know this isn't strictly a SBS question but I'm hoping someone can
> > answer me a simple (I hope) question.
> >
> > My SBS network has outgrown it's current office and we need to get a
> > couple of PC's, telephones and a printer put in another office about
> > 40 meters away.
> >
> > To get a bit of breathing space I want 10 data points in this new
> > office (we will only need 5). My local voice / data installers are
> > wanting to run 10 cat5e cables to this new office so will require
> > around 500 meters of cabling and "x" amount of time for wages.
> >
> > I have a Dell PowerConnect 2816 in my main office. Instead of running
> > 10 new cables, could I get another PowerConnect 2816 and put it in
> > the new office and run 1 cable connecting the switches?
> >
> > These new pc's won't be heavy network users so hopefully there won't
> > be bottleneck issues...
> >
> > Thoughts? Is this possible with powerconnect 2816's? I've looked at
> > the specs on the dell website but I'm not certain.
>
> You can extend networks by daisy-chaining switches almost to infinity
> with *any* switches (as long as they _are_ switches, and not hubs).
>
> Of greater concern should be bandwidth - if you're aggregating traffic
> from multiple devices to then pass that traffic from switch to switch,
> you really want the inter-switch connections (commonly referred to as
> trunks) to have higher capacity than the switch-device connections.
> This usually translates to a gigabit connection between switches if the
> clients connect at 100Mbps.
>
> --
> Steve Foster
> For SSL Certificates, Domains, etc, visit.:
> https://netshop.virtual-isp.net
> .
>
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