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From: Gerard Bok on 15 Nov 2009 07:18
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:24:50 +0100, "Holger Beuttler"
<holger.beuttler(a)t-online.de> wrote:

>I had a problem with my hard disk recorder from Pioneer. I found a method in
>the internet how to recover the data from the disk. I installed the demo of
>the needed software (UFS explorer) and tried to connect the hard disk from
>the recorder wirth my PC (Windows XP Home).

I haven't tried it myself, but maybe
http://ufs2tools.sourceforge.net/ offers some help.
(That is read only, but that's all you need, I guess.)

--
Kind regards,
Gerard Bok
From: philo on 15 Nov 2009 07:36
Holger Beuttler wrote:
>
> "philo" <philo(a)privacy.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:dMqdnS5CPdCGlGLXnZ2dnUVZ_oBi4p2d(a)ntd.net...
>> Holger Beuttler wrote:
>>> I tried both the Explorer where I, of course, didn't see anything and
>>> from the UFS explorer where I could only found my computer's hard drive.
>>> In the "Ger�temanager" (I think this is called "device manager" in
>>> the English Windows) I was able to find an entry for my USB drive I
>>> use to connect the hard drive with my PC. And Windows gave me also
>>> the message that a new drive was found but it was not possible to
>>> access either in the windows Explorer nor in the UFS explorer.
>>>
>>>
>>> "philo" <philo(a)privacy.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>> news:28adnQKelsNkUmPXnZ2dnUVZ_rhi4p2d(a)ntd.net...
>>>> Holger Beuttler wrote:
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've the following problem but I'm not shure whether this is the
>>>>> correct group or not:
>>>>> I had a problem with my hard disk recorder from Pioneer. I found a
>>>>> method in the internet how to recover the data from the disk. I
>>>>> installed the demo of the needed software (UFS explorer) and tried
>>>>> to connect the hard disk from the recorder wirth my PC (Windows XP
>>>>> Home).
>>>>> According to the interent I should see now the data on the disk
>>>>> with that software but I can't because Windows found that disk but
>>>>> for a reason I don't know it does not allow any connection.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings
>>>>> Holger
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you trying to access the drive from within UFS explorer
>>>> or from Windows explorer?
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Have a look in disk management
>>
>> if it's not there, the drive is either defective or else mis-connected
>
> Where can I find this function? In the system control?



Lets back up here a moment...

Is the drive an IDE/ATA drive?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA

is the drive even recognized in the BIOS

check that first.

If your bios is set to AUTO it should of course be automatically detected.

If it's not detected there it's either jumpered wrong or else
completely defective.


If the drive is detected ok in the bios

then here is how to use disk management

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309000


Note: Be sure to do *nothing* with the drive other than seeing if it's
recognized

From: kony on 15 Nov 2009 11:29
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:24:50 +0100, "Holger Beuttler"
<holger.beuttler(a)t-online.de> wrote:

>Dear all,
>
>I've the following problem but I'm not shure whether this is the correct
>group or not:
>I had a problem with my hard disk recorder from Pioneer.

It might help if we knew exactly what product this is,
possibly a link to the manufacturer's webpage for it or a
web review of it?

What "problem" did you have with it?

If the problem is that it had failed to function properly,
using a different software may not make a difference, the
data may still be unretrievable or corrupt.

>I found a method in
>the internet how to recover the data from the disk. I installed the demo of
>the needed software (UFS explorer) and tried to connect the hard disk from
>the recorder wirth my PC (Windows XP Home).
>According to the interent I should see now the data on the disk with that
>software but I can't because Windows found that disk but for a reason I
>don't know it does not allow any connection.

That is something that can happen to any drive which has
failed in particular ways, but I am not familiar with the
software you mention. Generally speaking if the drive
cannot be accessed the same way you used to put the data on
the drive in the first place it is probably damaged and care
should be taken not to alter the contents, perhaps sending
it to a data recovery center at great cost to try and
salvage that data.
From: Holger Beuttler on 15 Nov 2009 12:38

"kony" <spam(a)spam.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:isa0g5panudhm6bh0kdr97t6ecgn7g5d4q(a)4ax.com...
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:24:50 +0100, "Holger Beuttler"
> <holger.beuttler(a)t-online.de> wrote:
>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>I've the following problem but I'm not shure whether this is the correct
>>group or not:
>>I had a problem with my hard disk recorder from Pioneer.
>
> It might help if we knew exactly what product this is,
> possibly a link to the manufacturer's webpage for it or a
> web review of it?
>
> What "problem" did you have with it?
>
> If the problem is that it had failed to function properly,
> using a different software may not make a difference, the
> data may still be unretrievable or corrupt.
>

The recorder is a Pioneer DVR-520H
(http://www.pioneer.de/de/products/archive/DVR-520H-S/index.html sorry it's
German. I couldn't find the coresponding English page but this should help
also).
The problem was, that during the starting process of this recorder a power
failure took place. When I started the recorder again a message that a hard
disk error occured was shown on the screen and unfortunately the hard disk
was reseted so that it could be only used again after resetting it. I did
the procedure and this formatized my hard disk. The I looked up in the
internet and found that Pioneer's file systems is a UFS2 and deleted files
could be restored with this UFS explorer.
So I think there is no hardware problem because the recorder itself could
access the hard disk without any problems.

From: Holger Beuttler on 15 Nov 2009 12:38
Thanks I will try the software also, but the first problem to solve is that
my PC can see an additional hard disk.
"Gerard Bok" <bok118(a)zonnet.nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:4afff0ec.3329267(a)News.Individual.NET...
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:24:50 +0100, "Holger Beuttler"
> <holger.beuttler(a)t-online.de> wrote:
>
>>I had a problem with my hard disk recorder from Pioneer. I found a method
>>in
>>the internet how to recover the data from the disk. I installed the demo
>>of
>>the needed software (UFS explorer) and tried to connect the hard disk from
>>the recorder wirth my PC (Windows XP Home).
>
> I haven't tried it myself, but maybe
> http://ufs2tools.sourceforge.net/ offers some help.
> (That is read only, but that's all you need, I guess.)
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Gerard Bok

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