Correct use of "nee"
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From: Lew on 14 Feb 2010 14:48 markspace wrote: > I've never had a good experience with Sam's books. Take a look at the > Java tutorial from Sun (nee Oracle) and their example, which is a bit > different in how it sets stuff up. > > <http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/uiswing/layout/card.html> > > <http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/uiswing/examples/layout/CardLayoutDemoProject/src/layout/CardLayoutDemo.java> That should be "Oracle (nee Sun)", since Java was born with family name "Sun" and then married into the "Oracle" family. -- Lew
From: Mike Schilling on 14 Feb 2010 15:31 Lew wrote: > markspace wrote: >> I've never had a good experience with Sam's books. Take a look at >> the Java tutorial from Sun (nee Oracle) and their example, which is >> a bit different in how it sets stuff up. >> >> <http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/uiswing/layout/card.html> >> >> <http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/uiswing/examples/layout/CardLayoutDemoProject/src/layout/CardLayoutDemo.java> > > That should be "Oracle (nee Sun)", since Java was born with family > name "Sun" and then married into the "Oracle" family. The correct use of "nee" can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e2kaQqxmQ0
From: Joshua Cranmer on 14 Feb 2010 15:38 On 02/14/2010 02:48 PM, Lew wrote: > That should be "Oracle (nee Sun)", since Java was born with family name > "Sun" and then married into the "Oracle" family. To be most pedantic, it's né or née, depending on whether or not you consider Java to be masculine or feminine. It's the past participle of the French word 'naître', or 'to be born.' -- Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth
From: Lew on 14 Feb 2010 15:48 Lew wrote: >> That should be "Oracle (nee Sun)", since Java was born with family name >> "Sun" and then married into the "Oracle" family. Joshua Cranmer wrote: > To be most pedantic, it's né or née, depending on whether or not you > consider Java to be masculine or feminine. It's the past participle of > the French word 'naître', or 'to be born.' You are absolutely correct. I've received a lot of grief over being overly pedantic in these fora, so I forbore to take it to that level. Nevertheless I heartily endorse your observation. Clearly Java must be feminine, as she's the one who changed her family name when the marriage happened. -- Lew Marriage is a civil right.
From: Tom Anderson on 14 Feb 2010 17:55
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Lew wrote: > Lew wrote: >>> That should be "Oracle (nee Sun)", since Java was born with family name >>> "Sun" and then married into the "Oracle" family. >> > Joshua Cranmer wrote: >> To be most pedantic, it's n? or n?e, depending on whether or not you >> consider Java to be masculine or feminine. It's the past participle of the >> French word 'na?tre', or 'to be born.' > > You are absolutely correct. I've received a lot of grief over being overly > pedantic in these fora, so I forbore to take it to that level. Nevertheless > I heartily endorse your observation. > > Clearly Java must be feminine, as she's the one who changed her family > name when the marriage happened. Now there's an assumption and a half! Java could well be feminine and traditional, but could also be masculine and modern. A male friend of mine is planning to adopt his fiancee's surname when they marry. The real problem here, of course, is the French. Why does everything have to be either male or female? Very silly. Hopefully we'll see this fixed in the next major release. tom -- Remember Sammy Jankis. |