From: kobiianardo on
Hello,
we're getting rid of and switching from a computer with server 2003
SBS to become a workgroup of 15 or so people. it happens that the
server is also our DHCP server (and i think it also handles our DNS).


How do i modify the following processes so it would actually work out
fine?

plan a:
copy all the data we need from the old computer -> while the old
server is still running -> get people out of the domain and join the
workgroup -> buy and hookup a router -> throw away old computer.

plan b:
copy -> throw away computer -> hook up router -> make everyone join
workgroup

plan c:
blank

i dont know if the physical setup of our computers matter. we have 2-3
switches, 3-4 wired/wireless routers, 2 printers and maybe 20
computers. and also are there particular types of routers i should
get?

thanks
kobiianardo

p.s. thanks for people that helped out in my other thread.

From: Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] on
Hello kobiianardo,

If you will use only the workgroup, it doesn't matter which way you choose
to make the machines workgroup computers. As long as you have the local administrator
password you can also bring them to workgroup without the domain. Don't forget
to prepare local user accounts on all computer and copy data into a separate
machine folder, as the domain user account profile wan't be accessible for
normal user accounts.

SBS handles also DNS as this is a major need for a domain.

Best regards

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> Hello,
> we're getting rid of and switching from a computer with server 2003
> SBS to become a workgroup of 15 or so people. it happens that the
> server is also our DHCP server (and i think it also handles our DNS).
> How do i modify the following processes so it would actually work out
> fine?
>
> plan a:
> copy all the data we need from the old computer -> while the old
> server is still running -> get people out of the domain and join the
> workgroup -> buy and hookup a router -> throw away old computer.
> plan b:
> copy -> throw away computer -> hook up router -> make everyone join
> workgroup
> plan c:
> blank
> i dont know if the physical setup of our computers matter. we have 2-3
> switches, 3-4 wired/wireless routers, 2 printers and maybe 20
> computers. and also are there particular types of routers i should
> get?
>
> thanks
> kobiianardo
> p.s. thanks for people that helped out in my other thread.
>


From: Phillip Windell on
"kobiianardo" <kobiianardo(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6443c2bf-b0d8-4eff-b0df-91fda81d1ef2(a)g30g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> Hello,
> we're getting rid of and switching from a computer with server 2003
> SBS to become a workgroup of 15 or so people.

Recommended Workgroup Limit is 10.


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or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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From: Leythos on
In article <OJWNwDB2KHA.4336(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
philwindell(a)hotmail.com says...
>
> "kobiianardo" <kobiianardo(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6443c2bf-b0d8-4eff-b0df-91fda81d1ef2(a)g30g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > Hello,
> > we're getting rid of and switching from a computer with server 2003
> > SBS to become a workgroup of 15 or so people.
>
> Recommended Workgroup Limit is 10.

SBS 2003 can easily handle 15, and is capable of 75. I can't imagine
anyone wanting to move to a "Workgroup" after having a quality and
properly built domain setup.

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From: Phillip Windell on
"Leythos" <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.26293da7939b5eba98a2b0(a)us.news.astraweb.com...
> In article <OJWNwDB2KHA.4336(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
> philwindell(a)hotmail.com says...
>>
>> "kobiianardo" <kobiianardo(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:6443c2bf-b0d8-4eff-b0df-91fda81d1ef2(a)g30g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>> > Hello,
>> > we're getting rid of and switching from a computer with server 2003
>> > SBS to become a workgroup of 15 or so people.
>>
>> Recommended Workgroup Limit is 10.
>
> SBS 2003 can easily handle 15, and is capable of 75. I can't imagine
> anyone wanting to move to a "Workgroup" after having a quality and
> properly built domain setup.

Exactly.

Although I have been to a doctor's office where they have no IT people and
the people there just cannot comprehend a "domain". I gave them a Domain on
the single server, but was forced to let them keep logging in to the
workstations *locally* with a generic account for the whole machine (no
per-user accounts). So the workstations are members, but beyond that the
Domain is unused. I had to just "give up" and leave it that way.

They still "think" in terms of Windows 95/98 where there is a single profile
for all users. The idea of different profiles (desktop, favorites, My Docs)
for each user was too much for them. Then having someone adding/deleting
user accounts, adjusting permissions, as a result of employee
turn-over,...just too much.

Yea, there were some other methods that could have been explorered, but it
reached a point where I just wanted free of the whole thing. I already have
a full time job, I was not a consultant "officially" at the time, and did
not have a "business" as a consultant, and was not interested in being
self-employed on top of my full time job. I was just someone they knew and
was asked if I could help. Haven't heard anything from them in a long time.
Maybe they finally hired an actual consultant to help them on a regular,
planned, structured, paid basis (I'm hoping).


--
Phillip Windell

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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