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From: Mark Adams on 11 Feb 2010 23:26 "Greg Russell" wrote: > In news:851CF487-4C87-4937-AE79-561CB2F9FA1F(a)microsoft.com, > Mark Adams <MarkAdams(a)discussions.microsoft.com> typed: > > > When you see "press any key to boot from CD" press any key. > > "Uhhhh ... where's the 'any' key?" - Homer Simpson > > Uhhhh... here? http://www.amazon.com/Novelty-Computer-Key-Caps-8/dp/B000QHYTIQ
From: ANGELKISSES420 on 12 Feb 2010 12:30 i have a cd.. and it works when i install it on peoples pcs.. but when i try to boot from disc.. it wont work.. and ive tried to boot using both cd/dvd players in my computer.. it just wont let me. when i do try to boot up using the disk. i get the bsod. and that is my problem, microsoft said they could fix it for me since it was the update that caused it. but they cant fix it bc for some reason just like alot of other people i know, it wont allow them to boot from disc.. and my harddrive is inaccessible.. i can take my hd out.. put it in another pc.. and it wont work... and yet it worked perfectly fine until that update. im sorry but i dont believe it was coincedence, how could it be when 20+ people i know or have talked to are going through the same thing.. not to mention practically everyone who has xp is having the problem.. hence why its all over the news on the internet. heres another new NEWS link. http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/secu/article.php/3864611/Patch-Tuesday-Update-Crashes-XP-Users-Parade.htm?comment=27390-0 "Jose" wrote: > On Feb 11, 5:24 pm, ANGELKISSES420 > <ANGELKISSES...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > okay.. i found out.. the UPDATE ... fried my hard drive.. thats why i cant > > boot from disk.. that sucks.. and microsoft wont pay for it... i tested a > > different harddrive.. and it works.. because it doesnt have that update on > > it.and that update isnt on it.. so it works.. im pissed.. > > > > > > If the update breaks your computer and if the link to the fix is the > solution (has anyone verified the fix on a broken system or is it just > a "given"), boot Recovery Console, uninstall the update and be on your > way. I have the update and no problems but maybe we here are not a > member of the non-trival group afflicted. > > If you do not have a bootable Windows CD to get into Recovery Console, > that that is not the fault of MS. If you didn't get an XP CD with > your system, you should get one when this is all over. > > If you need to boot Recovery Console, make a bootable CD, or if your > system has no CD drive, make a bootable USB device that has RC on it. > > If you have no XP media and need to make a bootable Recovery Console > CD to uninstall the update, here are instructions to make one. > > http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic276527.html > > Making a bootable USB device varies, but your hardware vendor probably > has instructions. This is not a new idea. > > I would not implement KB307545 just for this piddly update - unless > uninstalling the single update (a few seconds or time) doesn't work. > That is just my opinion. > > If you have no way to boot your system from other than the HDD to deal > with such things, it would be a good idea to learn how or find > somebody that knows how to help/teach about the problem. > > > . >
From: Daave on 12 Feb 2010 12:48 You are doing it incorrectly. From your description, you are still booting off the hard drive! You need to configure your BIOS so that you boot off the CD: http://michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm What is the make and model of your PC? Certain PCs allow you to enter a boot menu without needing to enter the BIOS. (For instance, Dell PCs allow you to press F12 to accomplish this.) ANGELKISSES420 wrote: > i have a cd.. and it works when i install it on peoples pcs.. but > when i try to boot from disc.. it wont work.. and ive tried to boot > using both cd/dvd players in my computer.. it just wont let me. when > i do try to boot up using the disk. i get the bsod. and that is my > problem, microsoft said they could fix it for me since it was the > update that caused it. but they cant fix it bc for some reason just > like alot of other people i know, it wont allow them to boot from > disc.. and my harddrive is inaccessible.. i can take my hd out.. put > it in another pc.. and it wont work... and yet it worked perfectly > fine until that update. im sorry but i dont believe it was > coincedence, how could it be when 20+ people i know or have talked to > are going through the same thing.. not to mention practically > everyone who has xp is having the problem.. hence why its all over > the news on the internet. heres another new NEWS link. > http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/secu/article.php/3864611/Patch-Tuesday-Update-Crashes-XP-Users-Parade.htm?comment=27390-0 > > "Jose" wrote: > >> On Feb 11, 5:24 pm, ANGELKISSES420 >> <ANGELKISSES...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>> okay.. i found out.. the UPDATE ... fried my hard drive.. thats why >>> i cant boot from disk.. that sucks.. and microsoft wont pay for >>> it... i tested a different harddrive.. and it works.. because it >>> doesnt have that update on it.and that update isnt on it.. so it >>> works.. im pissed.. >>> >>> >> >> If the update breaks your computer and if the link to the fix is the >> solution (has anyone verified the fix on a broken system or is it >> just a "given"), boot Recovery Console, uninstall the update and be >> on your way. I have the update and no problems but maybe we here >> are not a member of the non-trival group afflicted. >> >> If you do not have a bootable Windows CD to get into Recovery >> Console, that that is not the fault of MS. If you didn't get an XP >> CD with your system, you should get one when this is all over. >> >> If you need to boot Recovery Console, make a bootable CD, or if your >> system has no CD drive, make a bootable USB device that has RC on it. >> >> If you have no XP media and need to make a bootable Recovery Console >> CD to uninstall the update, here are instructions to make one. >> >> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic276527.html >> >> Making a bootable USB device varies, but your hardware vendor >> probably has instructions. This is not a new idea. >> >> I would not implement KB307545 just for this piddly update - unless >> uninstalling the single update (a few seconds or time) doesn't work. >> That is just my opinion. >> >> If you have no way to boot your system from other than the HDD to >> deal with such things, it would be a good idea to learn how or find >> somebody that knows how to help/teach about the problem. >> >> >> .
From: ANGELKISSES420 on 12 Feb 2010 13:01 No they couldnt boot from cd.. ive looked all over the net, theres more people who cant boot from cd like myself & a few other people i know after that update. we all have that issue, so were stuck in the same boat as the people with the netbooks.. because its basically like we have no cd drive to boot from.. Ive tried every cd drive i have in my house, which is 8. and no matter which one i do, it wont work, i tried without hard drive, and it wont work. but my pc works perfectly fine, with a diff hd in it.. "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" wrote: > I still have yet to have any of my Clients PC's Report this > and they run 98% of XP.... > > Try this Leave the HD Completely out and put the CD in > (It should BOOT to CD > or ask you to hit a key) > > It should find the CDRom and Boot to it. > If it doesn't find your CDROM and you've changed the BIOS to boot from the > CD > then you have some how fix that to try the fix. > > On the others? > You said they have replaced the HD already? > > Seems a little extreme.. > They couldn't boot from a CD either? > Russ > > -- > Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist > 24hr SBS Remote Support - www.SBITS.Biz > Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com > Free Trial Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com > > > "ANGELKISSES420" <ANGELKISSES420(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:A8FC953A-B1EE-4723-ACD8-14DEFD68CC67(a)microsoft.com... > > tried that.. it wont boot at all.. i put a different hard drive in.. and > > it > > works.. it just keeps going thru the safemode loop when i have my > > harddrive > > in. when i go to boot it just keeps doing it over and over or gives me the > > bsod. tried a diff. hd with windows 98 on it which was a 4g hd and it > > booted > > right up. it just isnt working when i have my xp hd in there.. my brother > > in > > law is having the same issue along with 4 other people we know.. they all > > had > > to get new hd. and now their pcs are working. > > > > "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" wrote: > > > >> If you can't boot to disk > >> It may be that your BIOS set's to boot from Hard Drive first > >> Go into BIOS > >> Usually F2 on start up > >> and switch the order of boot preference to CD-ROM before HD > >> and then you should be able to boot to CD > >> Russ > >> > >> -- > >> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] > >> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC > >> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist > >> 24hr SBS Remote Support - www.SBITS.Biz > >> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com > >> Free Trial Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com > >> > >> > >> "ANGELKISSES420" <ANGELKISSES420(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> message > >> news:69DBB231-821C-42D8-B5A7-3060262BE890(a)microsoft.com... > >> > ya i seen that. but my problem is, it wont let me boot from disk. just > >> > like > >> > it hasnt to my brother in law who has the same problem. some people can > >> > boot > >> > from disk to fix it.. others cant.. > >> > > >> > "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" wrote: > >> > > >> >> Did you see this? > >> >> http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/2010/02/new-patches-cause-bsod-for-some-win > >> >> dows-xp-users/ > >> >> > >> >> and Image of my post > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Russ > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] > >> >> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC > >> >> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist > >> >> 24hr SBS Remote Support - www.SBITS.Biz > >> >> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com > >> >> Free Trial Microsoft Online Services - > >> >> www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in > >> >> message > >> >> news:O8nGeN2qKHA.3464(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> >> > I submitted a request for someone to look up that ticket > >> >> > and asked it to be escalated. > >> >> > > >> >> > I also said it was due to an update. > >> >> > (I only have 4hr response on this forum) > >> >> > So I'll let you know what the reply is. > >> >> > > >> >> > Hopefully they got your Email and phone number > >> >> > and someone will be calling you soon > >> >> > Russ > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] > >> >> > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC > >> >> > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist > >> >> > 24hr SBS Remote Support - www.SBITS.Biz > >> >> > Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com > >> >> > Free Trial Microsoft Online Services - > >> >> > www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "ANGELKISSES420" <ANGELKISSES420(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> >> message > >> >> > news:44FB8E28-9E61-4F03-B89B-B7EB0228E428(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> >> im not sure what updates, but i do know its the latest security > >> >> updates. > >> >> >> my > >> >> >> case #1124815903 I just got off the phone with them.. and not by > >> >> choice.. > >> >> >> the SUPERVISOR hungup on me:) they started saying "its a hardware > >> >> >> issue > >> >> >> its > >> >> >> not the update" and so forth. they tried to do the boot from disk. > >> >> >> but > >> >> >> guess > >> >> >> what. i cant boot from disk because of the update. so they told me > >> >> >> to > >> >> go > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> my manufacture or go to a pctech. and have them fix it.. i asked if > >> >> they > >> >> >> would pay for it, they said no, that they couldnt help me.. they > >> >> >> were > >> >> >> rude. i > >> >> >> was really nice. considering i couldnt understand em much, because > >> >> >> they > >> >> >> are > >> >> >> Pakistanians. but i was still nice. until they told me to speak > >> >> english, > >> >> >> shutup, and called me some not so nice names :). i told them "its > >> >> >> not > >> >> >> a > >> >> >> hardware issue, considering everything ran perfectly fine, until > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> update, > >> >> >> and considering everyone in my town that has xp has this problem" > >> >> >> they > >> >> >> argued > >> >> >> with me, and hungup. so im pretty ticked off. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> To Better help us. > >> >> >>> Which Update #? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> And What is your Case # with Microsoft > >> >> >>> Let me know and I will escalate it for you! > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> (They should have emailed you with a Case number) > >> >> >>> If not Please ask them to email you the case number > >> >> >>> and post it here or write me. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Thanks > >> >> >>> Russ > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> -- > >> >> >>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] > >> >> >>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC > >> >> >>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist > >> >> >>> 24hr SBS Remote Support - www.SBITS.Biz > >> >> >>> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com > >> >> >>> Free Trial Microsoft Online Services - > >> >> www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> "ANGELKISSES420" <ANGELKISSES420(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote > >> >> >>> in > >> >> >>> message > >> >> >>> news:2CD00500-2947-4831-A78F-30816939CC50(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> >>> > I WANTED TO TELL EVERYONE & ASK THEM PLEASE DO NOT DO THE NEW > >> >> WINDOWS > >> >> >>> > XP > >> >> >>> > UPDATES!!! THEY ARE MORE HARM THAN GOOD.. THEY SAY ITS NEW > >> >> >>> > SECURITY > >> >> >>> > UPDATES.. > >> >> >>> > IM SORRY BUT NO. THEY DON'T FIX YOUR COMPUTER, THEY MESS IT UP.. > >> >> AFTER > >> >> >>> > DOWNLOADING, AND INSTALLING( I HAD TO SHUT DOWN, TO COMPLETE THE > >> >> >>> > UPDATE) I > >> >> >>> > DID... AND NOW MY COMPUTER WONT OPEN WINDOWS.. IT TAKES ME TO > >> >> >>> > THE > >> >> BLACK > >> >> >>> > SCREEN, THAT SAYS "START IN SAFE MODE, lAST KNOWN GOOD CONFIG.. > >> >> >>> > OR > >> >> >>> > START > >> >> >>> > NORMALLY" IVE TRIED EVERY OPTION, WINDOWS WONT OPEN.. THE LAST > >> >> UPDATES > >> >> >>> > MESS > >> >> >>> > UP YOUR COMPUTER, IF YOU TRY TO OPEN WINDOWS, YOU CANT. AND EVEN > >> >> >>> > IF > >> >> YOU > >> >> >>> > DO > >> >> >>> > SET A RESTORE POINT.. IT WONT DO ANY GOOD.. BECAUSE YOU WONT > >> >> >>> > EVEN > >> >> GET > >> >> >>> > TO > >> >> >>> > GO > >> >> >>> > BACK TO THAT RESTORE POINT. ALL YOU'LL SEE IS THAT LITTLE > >> >> BLACKSCREEN. > >> >> >>> > NO > >> >> >>> > MATTER WHAT YOU DO.. THEN YOULL BE SITTING HERE ON THE PHONE > >> >> >>> > WITH > >> >> >>> > MICROSOFT > >> >> >>> > FOR 5 HRS:) AND NOTHING WILL COME FROM THAT, YOU WILL HAVE LOST > >> >> >>> > ALL > >> >> >>> > YOUR > >> >> >>> > INFORMATION, AND POSSIBLY FRYED YOUR HARDDRIVE.. SO FOR THOSE > >> >> >>> > PEOPLE > >> >> >>> > WHINING > >> >> >>> > THAT THEIR UPDATES WONT INSTALL.. DONT WHINE. YOURE ONE OF THE > >> >> >>> > LUCKY > >> >> >>> > ONES.. > >> >> >>> > EVERYONE IN MY TOWN THAT HAD WINDOWS XP.. THEIR COMPUTER HAS > >> >> >>> > CRASHED > >> >> >>> > AFTER > >> >> >>> > THE UPDATE.. SO FEEL LUCKY!!!! AND PLEASE.. DO NOT DOWNLOAD OR > >> >> INSTALL > >> >> >>> > THE > >> >> >>> > UPDATES.. IF YOU DO.. AND IT MESSES UP YOUR COMPUTER. SORRY BUT > >> >> >>> > I > >> >> >>> > WARNED > >> >> >>> > YOU. > >> >> >>> > >> >>
From: ANGELKISSES420 on 12 Feb 2010 13:54
i have configured my bios... same problem.. just like a couple other people i know. i did exactly what microsoft said to on the phone. and still the same problem!!! "Daave" wrote: > You are doing it incorrectly. From your description, you are still > booting off the hard drive! > > You need to configure your BIOS so that you boot off the CD: > > http://michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm > > What is the make and model of your PC? Certain PCs allow you to enter a > boot menu without needing to enter the BIOS. (For instance, Dell PCs > allow you to press F12 to accomplish this.) > > > ANGELKISSES420 wrote: > > i have a cd.. and it works when i install it on peoples pcs.. but > > when i try to boot from disc.. it wont work.. and ive tried to boot > > using both cd/dvd players in my computer.. it just wont let me. when > > i do try to boot up using the disk. i get the bsod. and that is my > > problem, microsoft said they could fix it for me since it was the > > update that caused it. but they cant fix it bc for some reason just > > like alot of other people i know, it wont allow them to boot from > > disc.. and my harddrive is inaccessible.. i can take my hd out.. put > > it in another pc.. and it wont work... and yet it worked perfectly > > fine until that update. im sorry but i dont believe it was > > coincedence, how could it be when 20+ people i know or have talked to > > are going through the same thing.. not to mention practically > > everyone who has xp is having the problem.. hence why its all over > > the news on the internet. heres another new NEWS link. > > http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/secu/article.php/3864611/Patch-Tuesday-Update-Crashes-XP-Users-Parade.htm?comment=27390-0 > > > > "Jose" wrote: > > > >> On Feb 11, 5:24 pm, ANGELKISSES420 > >> <ANGELKISSES...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >>> okay.. i found out.. the UPDATE ... fried my hard drive.. thats why > >>> i cant boot from disk.. that sucks.. and microsoft wont pay for > >>> it... i tested a different harddrive.. and it works.. because it > >>> doesnt have that update on it.and that update isnt on it.. so it > >>> works.. im pissed.. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> If the update breaks your computer and if the link to the fix is the > >> solution (has anyone verified the fix on a broken system or is it > >> just a "given"), boot Recovery Console, uninstall the update and be > >> on your way. I have the update and no problems but maybe we here > >> are not a member of the non-trival group afflicted. > >> > >> If you do not have a bootable Windows CD to get into Recovery > >> Console, that that is not the fault of MS. If you didn't get an XP > >> CD with your system, you should get one when this is all over. > >> > >> If you need to boot Recovery Console, make a bootable CD, or if your > >> system has no CD drive, make a bootable USB device that has RC on it. > >> > >> If you have no XP media and need to make a bootable Recovery Console > >> CD to uninstall the update, here are instructions to make one. > >> > >> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic276527.html > >> > >> Making a bootable USB device varies, but your hardware vendor > >> probably has instructions. This is not a new idea. > >> > >> I would not implement KB307545 just for this piddly update - unless > >> uninstalling the single update (a few seconds or time) doesn't work. > >> That is just my opinion. > >> > >> If you have no way to boot your system from other than the HDD to > >> deal with such things, it would be a good idea to learn how or find > >> somebody that knows how to help/teach about the problem. > >> > >> > >> . > > > . > |