From: David J. Craig on
Are you running the server with a dozen or two clients and providing the OS
images for each of them? One driver at a time, with the client OS being
loaded directly on the client can work with a lot less memory. The CPU does
get a little busy when several jobs are running at the same time. I suspect
the databases will grow with time and may need a bigger drive over time.

"Colin H" <colinh(a)noemail.noemail> wrote in message
news:E8AC4B25-DAF0-4969-93AC-FBE7DE17879E(a)microsoft.com...
> We've recently started giving DTM a whirl. It was a surprise to us that we
> were going to need a Server 2003 machine, but ok. We nearly fell off our
> chairs, however, when we read the ram/disk requirements!
> We decided to try anyway, with the old hardware we had lying around spare:
> 2GHz Athlon, 256MB RAM, 40GB hard disk.
> All seems fine so far - though I'm still struggling to get to grips with
> the
> wonder of programming that is the DTM Studio (seriously - it seems very
> impressive!).
> Glad now we didn't simply believe the figures and go waste a load of money
> on a new machine. Why are such huge minimum requirements given, or are we
> going to hit problems somewhere down the line?
>
>
> "Don Burn" wrote:
>
>> When you install the WDK, the initial installation dialog allows a choice
>> of the development environment, DTM or both. You need to install the DTM
>> controller on a seperate computer running Windows Server 2003 SP1, this
>> machine needs a couple processors, 1MB or more of memory, and 200MB free
>> of
>> disk. You, also need one or more test computers for the DTM controller
>> to
>> drive, these require additional installations of parts of DTM (this is
>> discussed in the release notes). So basically you need three or more
>> computers:
>>
>> 1. Your development systems
>> 2. A DTM controller computer
>> 3. One or more test systems.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
>> Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
>> http://www.windrvr.com
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>> "Eddie" <egrogan(a)apcc.com> wrote in message
>> news:1167920137.695337.203510(a)51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi there,
>> >
>> > I've just been asked to prepare our driver for WHQL submission. From
>> > reading the documentation on the Mircosoft web-site, it seems that I
>> > need to install a set of DTM components. My problem is that I can't
>> > find where there components are located on the on the latest WDK
>> > relaese from MS Connent site (6000.16386.a). I would appreciate if you
>> > could tell me where I might find these components. Also, does anyone
>> > know of any document that might detail how DTM should be used to test
>> > 64-bit (or 32-bit) drivers on Vista.
>> >
>> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Eddie
>> >
>> >
>> > DoronM wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Did you install the client using the network share? you need to
>> >> install
>> >> it
>> >> using the network and not via WDK DVD
>> >> if you did, it looks like you don't have connection problem
>> >>
>> >> Doron
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Elad Raz" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm trying to build a test for vista submission. Unfortunately, the
>> >> > client and the server are not speaking with each other.
>> >> >
>> >> > The problem is that the Studio can see only itself (WHQL) and the
>> >> > 'Vista-PC' machine wasn't added to the machine pool.
>> >> >
>> >> > The network connection is OK, TCP port 1778 can be accessed by the
>> >> > client. There is no firewall between these two computers.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Please help me!
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Elad.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is my hardware & software configuration:
>> >> > WDK/DTM Build 6000
>> >> > Client OS: Vista 6000 (Business) on a x64 machine
>> >> >
>> >> > For the controller
>> >> > ============
>> >> >
>> >> > A x64 machine installed with a clean copy of Windows 2003 Service
>> >> > Pack
>> >> > 1 and the DTM controller (express install). This machine also
>> >> > contains
>> >> > a DTM Studio installed.
>> >> >
>> >> > The machine is not connected into a domain and don't have a
>> >> > domain.(WORKGROUP)
>> >> >
>> >> > (The machine name is WHQL)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > For the client
>> >> > ==========
>> >> >
>> >> > A clean Vista installation (Work location) with the client
>> >> > controller
>> >> > installed. The machine is connected to WORKGROUP.
>> >> >
>> >> > (The machine name is Vista-PC)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ERROR MESSAGES
>> >> > ================
>> >> >
>> >> > Inside the WTTSrv.txt of the client, I see:
>> >> >
>> >> > =============================
>> >> >
>> >> > ....
>> >> >
>> >> > ....
>> >> >
>> >> > WTTProtocolTCPIP::ClientOpen : Trying Identifier
>> >> >
>> >> > 10.6.1.15 VISTA-PC->WHQL:
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2088 2006:12:3 17:14:50:921 Entering COMM receive
>> >> > VISTA-PC->WHQL:
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2088 2006:12:3 17:14:50:937 CMG: Heartbeat message successful.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2088 2006:12:3 17:14:50:937 CMG: Heartbeat reply is empty.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2044 2006:12:3 17:14:50:952 CMG: Plugin Loaded.
>> >> >
>> >> > ....
>> >> >
>> >> > ....
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 WTTSVC main thread.
>> >> >
>> >> > waking up to check health WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 Service "CMG" is in
>> >> >
>> >> > state "RUNNING" WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 Service "DIAG" is in
>> >> >
>> >> > state "RUNNING" WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 Service "EaManager"
>> >> >
>> >> > is in state "RUNNING" WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 Service "HOST" is in
>> >> >
>> >> > state "RUNNING" WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 Service "MACMAN" is
>> >> >
>> >> > in state "RUNNING" WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 Service "MESSAGING"
>> >> >
>> >> > is in state "RUNNING" WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 Service "POLICY" is
>> >> >
>> >> > in state "RUNNING" WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 WTTSVC: Services
>> >> >
>> >> > registered : 0 WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 WTTSVC: Services
>> >> >
>> >> > Stopped : 0 WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 WTTSVC: Services Stop
>> >> >
>> >> > Pending : 0 WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 WTTSVC: Services
>> >> >
>> >> > Reset : 0 WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 WTTSVC: Services
>> >> >
>> >> > Reset Pending : 0 WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 WTTSVC: Services
>> >> >
>> >> > Paused : 0 WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 WTTSVC: Services
>> >> >
>> >> > Pause Pending : 0 WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 WTTSVC: Services Running
>> >> > :
>> >> > 7
>> >> > WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 WTTSVC: Services Start Pending :
>> >> > 0
>> >> > WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:398 Request came for Service POLICY
>> >> > WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:51:414 CheckForUpdate: AUTO-UPDATE KEY not
>> >> > found assuming it is enabled WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:53:695 CheckForUpdate: The release share
>> >> > version is 1.0.6000.0 WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:53:695 CheckForUpdate: Not updating the
>> >> > installation. WTTsvcMainThread
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016 2032 2006:12:3 17:24:53:695 going back to sleep....
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Inside the WTTSvc.txt server log I see
>> >> >
>> >> > ===========================
>> >> >
>> >> > 1652 856 2006:12:3 6:57:30:218 Entering
>> >> >
>> >> > CMGMachineIDMessageHandler Vista-PC->WHQL:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1652 856 2006:12:3 6:57:30:218 ParseCMGMessage XML
>> >> >
>> >> > String is <MachineId
>> >> >
>> >> > MachineGuid="534A5350-E387-4805-8497-D2D87FCB4CD0"><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="Name"><Value>Vista-PC</Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="QualifiedName"><Value>Vista-PC</Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="MacAddress0"><Value>00-16-76-c8-fb-eb-00-00</Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="MacAddress1"><Value></Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="MacAddress2"><Value></Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="MacAddress3"><Value></Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="SmbiosUuid"><Value>64FE66D8-8550-DB11-B738-000C6E0802BC</Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="SmbiosAssetTag"><Value>
>> >> >
>> >> > </Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="SmbiosSerialNumber"><Value>
>> >> >
>> >> > </Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="SmbiosManufacturer"><Value>
>> >> >
>> >> > </Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="SmbiosModel"><Value>
>> >> >
>> >> > </Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="Drive0Vendor"><Value></Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="Drive0Product"><Value>WDC
>> >> >
>> >> > WD1600JS-00NCB1</Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="Drive0SerialNumber"><Value>2020202057202d4443574e41364d373234393538</Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="SqmMachineId"><Value>{8D9BCAC5-8E03-4A62-A803-75280E96ECE7}</Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="RamSize"><Value>1045741568</Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="Hash1"><Value>DA3AFDEDC429A7BF1FE7B54C583C47D7</Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="Hash2"><Value>BE6A06A406D960977CE89BADB0746ABD</Value></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="PublicKey"><Value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alue></Key><Key
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="RuntimeVersion"><Value>1.0.6000.0</Value></Key></MachineId>
>> >> >
>> >> > Vista-PC->WHQL:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1652 856 2006:12:3 6:57:30:406 Exiting
>> >> >
>> >> > CMGMachineIDMessageHandler Vista-PC->WHQL:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1652 856 2006:12:3 6:57:30:406 Entering Handler thread
>> >> >
>> >> > proc
>> >> >
>> >> > 1652 856 2006:12:3 6:57:30:406 Entering
>> >> >
>> >> > CMGHeartbeatMessageHandler Vista-PC->WHQL:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1652 856 2006:12:3 6:57:30:421 ParseCMGMessage XML
>> >> >
>> >> > String is <Heartbeat
>> >> >
>> >> > MachineGuid="534A5350-E387-4805-8497-D2D87FCB4CD0"><Module
>> >> >
>> >> > Name="CMG"><Details Value="0" /></Module></Heartbeat>


From: Colin H on
Nope - just testing a couple of USB/BDA drivers!
Didn't realise you could download os images. But then there's a lot I don't
know about DTM yet - like getting the simplest of tests to run without a load
of less-than-helpful "can't copy file" kind of errors..... Hopefully I'll
soon figure out what I'm doing wrong!

(I suppose my gripe was that the DTM docs give the impression that you
*have* to have that spec of server - no attempt to scale requirements to
levels of testing.)

"David J. Craig" wrote:

> Are you running the server with a dozen or two clients and providing the OS
> images for each of them? One driver at a time, with the client OS being
> loaded directly on the client can work with a lot less memory. The CPU does
> get a little busy when several jobs are running at the same time. I suspect
> the databases will grow with time and may need a bigger drive over time.
>

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