Dark Matter's origin at the Big Bang
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From: mpc755 on 17 Apr 2010 23:35 On Apr 17, 9:21 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote: > mpc755 wrote: > > > On Apr 17, 5:18 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > It should be completely mixed with normal matter. It can have no > > > special place of its own because it had the same beginning as normal > > > matter. The Earth is not made of it so how can the universe itself be > > > made mostly of it? > > > Aether has no special place of its own because it is the same material > > as matter. > > > The Earth is made of it. > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > idiot > > <http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/Walsworth/pdf/PT_Romalis0704.pdf>  >  No aether > You don't even realize the link above is where the following quote is from: http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/Walsworth/pdf/PT_Romalis0704.pdf Yes aether "A possible candidate for dark energy that avoids some of the fine- tuning problems associated with the cosmological is quintessence, a very low-energy field with a wavelength comparable to the size of the known universe. In addition to its effect on the expansion of the universe, quintessence might also manifest itself through its possible interactions with matter and radiation." http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quintessence "quin·tes·sence â â/kwɪnËtÉsÉns/ Show Spelled[kwin-tes-uhns] Show IPA ânoun 1. the pure and concentrated essence of a substance. 2. the most perfect embodiment of something. 3. (in ancient and medieval philosophy) the fifth essence or element, ether, supposed to be the constituent matter of the heavenly bodies" A low-energy field with a wavelength comparable to the size of the known universe is aether as a one something. Aether and matter are different states of the same material. Aether is the pure essence of matter. "quintessence might also manifest itself through its possible interactions with matter" Aether interacts with matter by being displaced by matter. The pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter manifests itself as gravity. The following image represents the aether's state of displacement as determined by its connections with the matter. The image would be more accurate if the grid connected to and through the Earth. This would more accurately reflect Einstein's concept of the state of the aether is determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places: http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2005/11/16/16nov_gpb_resou... 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein' "What is fundamentally new in the ether of the general theory of relativity as opposed to the ether of Lorentz consists in this, that the state of the former is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, which are amenable to law in the form of differential equations; whereas the state of the Lorentzian ether in the absence of electromagnetic fields is conditioned by nothing outside itself, and is everywhere the same. The ether of the general theory of relativity is transmuted conceptually into the ether of Lorentz if we substitute constants for the functions of space which describe the former, disregarding the causes which condition its state." http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html The cause which conditions its state is its displacement by matter.
From: mpc755 on 17 Apr 2010 23:37 On Apr 17, 8:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Apr 17, 5:07 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 17, 6:04 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 17, 3:00 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 17, 5:54 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2:49 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 5:46 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2:34 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 5:18 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It should be completely mixed with normal matter. It can have no > > > > > > > > > special place of its own because it had the same beginning as normal > > > > > > > > > matter. The Earth is not made of it so how can the universe itself be > > > > > > > > > made mostly of it? > > > > > > > > > Aether has no special place of its own because it is the same material > > > > > > > > as matter. > > > > > > > > > The Earth is made of it. > > > > > > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material.. > > > > > > > > Earth is in the round aether. Part of the Earth is its time flow rate. > > > > > > > That would make the Earth a clock. Particles are more importantly > > > > > > > Aether Waves with energy substance that vibrates by their push. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > Correct. Moving particles have associated aether waves. > > > > > > > Aether is displaced by matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > Light flow phenomenon changes the quantum wave size at the speed of > > > > > light under gravity rate. It collapses into its energy and stays there > > > > > temporarily. Then it reexpands under gravity rate pushing the energy > > > > > in the same instant. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch; Gravity is the center of Order > > > > > You should really slow down if you want to understand gravity. > > > > > You understand a moving particle has an associated aether wave. > > > > > The moving particle displaces the aether. > > > > > The aether behaves as a frictionless super fluid/solid. > > > > > If you place a particle in a frictionless material it displaces the > > > > material whether it is moving or not. If you remove the particle from > > > > the frictionless material then the material fills-in where the > > > > particle was. This is the material 'displacing back'. This is the > > > > material apply pressure towards the particle. If the particle > > > > consisted of millions of smaller particles separated by springs then > > > > the material would exert pressure towards and throughout the > > > > particles. > > > > > When you get to an object as massive as the Earth the amount of > > > > pressure exerted by the aether towards and throughout the Earth is > > > > gravity. > > > > > Now, I realize your next post is going to be another word salad so I > > > > will stop responding now.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > If I slowdown my time rate will get faster. That is like leaving > > > gravity. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > Why don't you try and understand gravity before factoring in time? > > > Time is a function of space. > > > An atomic clock ticks based upon the aether pressure in which it > > exists. > > > You do understand a moving particle has an associated aether wave. > > > The moving particle displaces the aether. > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > Aether is displaced by matter. > > Displacement creates pressure. > > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > The primary strength of gravity is a space flow without a rate. It is > absolute flow vs. energy flow which requires always a rate. > > Gravity strength is absolute motion without time; but it is setting up > time; the primary order of a slow time field. > > Mitch Raemsch If you want to understand 'flow' read the following link. In AD, the 'flow' is the pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constant http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence space effectively flows towards matter. However this is not a flow of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in the aether models or in the random particulate Le Sage kinetic theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not relative to some a priori background geometrical space" Aether and matter are different states of the same material. Aether is displaced by matter. Displacement creates pressure. Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. What is described as 'flow' in the article is the aether 'displacing back'. What is described as 'flow' is the pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the matter.
From: BURT on 17 Apr 2010 23:42 On Apr 17, 8:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 17, 9:21 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote: > > > > > > > mpc755 wrote: > > > > On Apr 17, 5:18 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > It should be completely mixed with normal matter. It can have no > > > > special place of its own because it had the same beginning as normal > > > > matter. The Earth is not made of it so how can the universe itself be > > > > made mostly of it? > > > > Aether has no special place of its own because it is the same material > > > as matter. > > > > The Earth is made of it. > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > > idiot > > > <http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/Walsworth/pdf/PT_Romalis0704.pdf>  > >  No aether > > You don't even realize the link above is where the following quote is > from: > > http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/Walsworth/pdf/PT_Romalis0704.pdf > Yes aether > > "A possible candidate for dark energy that avoids some of the fine- > tuning problems associated with the cosmological is quintessence, a > very low-energy field with a wavelength comparable to the size of the > known universe. In addition to its effect on the expansion of the > universe, quintessence might also manifest itself through its possible > interactions with matter and radiation." > > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quintessence > > "quin·tes·sence > â â/kwɪnËtÉsÉns/ Show Spelled[kwin-tes-uhns] Show IPA > ânoun > 1. the pure and concentrated essence of a substance. > 2. the most perfect embodiment of something. > 3. (in ancient and medieval philosophy) the fifth essence or element, > ether, supposed to be the constituent matter of the heavenly bodies" > > A low-energy field with a wavelength comparable to the size of the > known universe is aether as a one something. > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > Aether is the pure essence of matter. > > "quintessence might also manifest itself through its possible > interactions with matter" > > Aether interacts with matter by being displaced by matter. > > The pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter manifests itself as > gravity. > > The following image represents the aether's state of displacement as > determined by its connections with the matter. The image would be more > accurate if the grid connected to and through the Earth. This would > more accurately reflect Einstein's concept of the state of the aether > is determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the > aether in neighboring places: > > http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2005/11/16/16nov_gpb_resou... > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity > by > Albert Einstein' > > "What is fundamentally new in the ether of the general theory of > relativity as opposed to the ether of Lorentz consists in this, that > the state of the former is at every place determined by connections > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, > which are amenable to law in the form of differential equations; > whereas the state of the Lorentzian ether in the absence of > electromagnetic fields is conditioned by nothing outside itself, and > is everywhere the same. The ether of the general theory of relativity > is transmuted conceptually into the ether of Lorentz if we substitute > constants for the functions of space which describe the former, > disregarding the causes which condition its state."http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html > > The cause which conditions its state is its displacement by matter.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Universal substances exist together. Space, Aether, energy/matterial. Of course they must be working together for the absolute order in a kind of chain from the very top. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 17 Apr 2010 23:43 On Apr 17, 11:42 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Apr 17, 8:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 17, 9:21 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote: > > > > mpc755 wrote: > > > > > On Apr 17, 5:18 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > It should be completely mixed with normal matter. It can have no > > > > > special place of its own because it had the same beginning as normal > > > > > matter. The Earth is not made of it so how can the universe itself be > > > > > made mostly of it? > > > > > Aether has no special place of its own because it is the same material > > > > as matter. > > > > > The Earth is made of it. > > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > > > idiot > > > > <http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/Walsworth/pdf/PT_Romalis0704.pdf>  > > >  No aether > > > You don't even realize the link above is where the following quote is > > from: > > >http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/Walsworth/pdf/PT_Romalis0704.pdf > > Yes aether > > > "A possible candidate for dark energy that avoids some of the fine- > > tuning problems associated with the cosmological is quintessence, a > > very low-energy field with a wavelength comparable to the size of the > > known universe. In addition to its effect on the expansion of the > > universe, quintessence might also manifest itself through its possible > > interactions with matter and radiation." > > >http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quintessence > > > "quin·tes·sence > > â â/kwɪnËtÉsÉns/ Show Spelled[kwin-tes-uhns] Show IPA > > ânoun > > 1. the pure and concentrated essence of a substance. > > 2. the most perfect embodiment of something. > > 3. (in ancient and medieval philosophy) the fifth essence or element, > > ether, supposed to be the constituent matter of the heavenly bodies" > > > A low-energy field with a wavelength comparable to the size of the > > known universe is aether as a one something. > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > > Aether is the pure essence of matter. > > > "quintessence might also manifest itself through its possible > > interactions with matter" > > > Aether interacts with matter by being displaced by matter. > > > The pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter manifests itself as > > gravity. > > > The following image represents the aether's state of displacement as > > determined by its connections with the matter. The image would be more > > accurate if the grid connected to and through the Earth. This would > > more accurately reflect Einstein's concept of the state of the aether > > is determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the > > aether in neighboring places: > > >http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2005/11/16/16nov_gpb_resou... > > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity > > by > > Albert Einstein' > > > "What is fundamentally new in the ether of the general theory of > > relativity as opposed to the ether of Lorentz consists in this, that > > the state of the former is at every place determined by connections > > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, > > which are amenable to law in the form of differential equations; > > whereas the state of the Lorentzian ether in the absence of > > electromagnetic fields is conditioned by nothing outside itself, and > > is everywhere the same. The ether of the general theory of relativity > > is transmuted conceptually into the ether of Lorentz if we substitute > > constants for the functions of space which describe the former, > > disregarding the causes which condition its state."http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html > > > The cause which conditions its state is its displacement by matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Universal substances exist together. Space, Aether, energy/matterial. > Of course they must be working together for the absolute order in a > kind of chain from the very top. > > Mitch Raemsch Aether and matter work together because they are different states of the material.
From: BURT on 17 Apr 2010 23:48
On Apr 17, 8:43 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 17, 11:42 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 8:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 17, 9:21 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote: > > > > > mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 17, 5:18 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > It should be completely mixed with normal matter. It can have no > > > > > > special place of its own because it had the same beginning as normal > > > > > > matter. The Earth is not made of it so how can the universe itself be > > > > > > made mostly of it? > > > > > > Aether has no special place of its own because it is the same material > > > > > as matter. > > > > > > The Earth is made of it. > > > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > > > > idiot > > > > > <http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/Walsworth/pdf/PT_Romalis0704.pdf>  > > > >  No aether > > > > You don't even realize the link above is where the following quote is > > > from: > > > >http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/Walsworth/pdf/PT_Romalis0704.pdf > > > Yes aether > > > > "A possible candidate for dark energy that avoids some of the fine- > > > tuning problems associated with the cosmological is quintessence, a > > > very low-energy field with a wavelength comparable to the size of the > > > known universe. In addition to its effect on the expansion of the > > > universe, quintessence might also manifest itself through its possible > > > interactions with matter and radiation." > > > >http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quintessence > > > > "quin·tes·sence > > > â â/kwɪnËtÉsÉns/ Show Spelled[kwin-tes-uhns] Show IPA > > > ânoun > > > 1. the pure and concentrated essence of a substance. > > > 2. the most perfect embodiment of something. > > > 3. (in ancient and medieval philosophy) the fifth essence or element, > > > ether, supposed to be the constituent matter of the heavenly bodies" > > > > A low-energy field with a wavelength comparable to the size of the > > > known universe is aether as a one something. > > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > > > > Aether is the pure essence of matter. > > > > "quintessence might also manifest itself through its possible > > > interactions with matter" > > > > Aether interacts with matter by being displaced by matter. > > > > The pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter manifests itself as > > > gravity. > > > > The following image represents the aether's state of displacement as > > > determined by its connections with the matter. The image would be more > > > accurate if the grid connected to and through the Earth. This would > > > more accurately reflect Einstein's concept of the state of the aether > > > is determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the > > > aether in neighboring places: > > > >http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2005/11/16/16nov_gpb_resou.... > > > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity > > > by > > > Albert Einstein' > > > > "What is fundamentally new in the ether of the general theory of > > > relativity as opposed to the ether of Lorentz consists in this, that > > > the state of the former is at every place determined by connections > > > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, > > > which are amenable to law in the form of differential equations; > > > whereas the state of the Lorentzian ether in the absence of > > > electromagnetic fields is conditioned by nothing outside itself, and > > > is everywhere the same. The ether of the general theory of relativity > > > is transmuted conceptually into the ether of Lorentz if we substitute > > > constants for the functions of space which describe the former, > > > disregarding the causes which condition its state."http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html > > > > The cause which conditions its state is its displacement by matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Universal substances exist together. Space, Aether, energy/matterial. > > Of course they must be working together for the absolute order in a > > kind of chain from the very top. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Aether and matter work together because they are different states of > the material.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Time flow is part of matter otherwise a clock wouldn't register it. Mitch Raemsch |