From: "Dave "Crash" Dummy" on 28 Aug 2010 07:21 Al Dunbar wrote: > > > "Mayayana" <mayayana(a)invalid.nospam> wrote in message > news:i58dmo$r2t$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > <snip> > >> I find that arrogance >> about one's chosen language tends to be in relation >> to the terseness of it. > > Interesting observation. I prefer this one: language arrogance is not > healthy regardless of the chosen language. These are tools, guys, let's > not get our shorts tied in knots arguing the number of angels on the > head of a pin! > >> C++ people are stuck with >> annoying semi-colons, but that doesn't stop a lot >> of them from holding forth about their "superior" >> language. > > True. But those who actually like the semi-colons do not agree that they > are stuck with them. They are probably happy not to have too many > colons, otherwise they will be forced to cleanse. > >> And many Perl users seem to think they're >> the Chosen People. But "We're number 1!" is simply >> childish, no matter what the topic. > > LOL. Do you know *any* language that has no zealots?? > >> PS - Al, I'd suggest that you don't take up this >> issue with your wife. She may not appreciate that >> you're thinking about women who look like her -- >> even if they are her. :) > > Hmm, for a computer geek, you seem to have some fairly sophisticated > views about relations between the sexes. I'll keep your advice in mind. The One True Faith is Assembler. All else are varying degrees of heresy. :-) -- Crash Committed to the search for intraterrestrial intelligence.
From: Mayayana on 28 Aug 2010 09:54 | >| Example, the sloppy allowance in vbs of this faulty statement: | >| | >| if a = b then c = d end if | >| | > | > I don't see the problem with that. | | Then you are not a Basic native speaker. | So what? Do you want historical credentials or workable code. It works gine for me. The End If can be used or skipped. It also provides the option for extensive code within it: If a = b then c = d e = f g - h = i End If | | > I find that arrogance about one's chosen | > language tends to be in relation | > to the terseness of it. | | Wow, we are talking VBS here, | arrogance is off topic. | Indeed....I rest my case. :)
From: Mayayana on 28 Aug 2010 09:56 | The One True Faith is Assembler. All else are varying degrees of heresy. :-) | -- :) The president looks down on the VP and the rubbish man looks down on the garbage man.... but they're all stuck on the same self-imposed ladder to nowhere.
From: "Dave "Crash" Dummy" on 28 Aug 2010 09:56 Evertjan. wrote: > Mayayana wrote on 27 aug 2010 in microsoft.public.scripting.vbscript: > >> | I prefer the ideas of Edsger Dijkstra [1930-2002] about Basic. >> | Felt intuitivity leads to sloppy programming. >> | There is beauty in Javascript that fails in VBS. >> | >> | Example, the sloppy allowance in vbs of this faulty statement: >> | >> | if a = b then c = d end if >> | >> >> I don't see the problem with that. > > Then you are not a Basic native speaker. > > there are two forms of If-then: > > ============== > if a then b > ============== > > and the young William Gates invention: > > ============== > if a then > b > end if > ============== > > so the below is an error and should flagged down as an error: > > ============== > if a then b end if > ============== > > end it is flagged down in many Basics but not in in MS-VBS. > > >> If it's sunny >> then we're going to the beach. I don't find that I >> get confused re-reading my code, thinking that the >> beach turned into the sun. > > Why should you be. It can be sunny on the beach and minus 40, > immaterial if in degrees Celcius or Farenheit. > >> I find that arrogance > > Wow, we are talking VBS here, > arrogance is off topic. Arrogance is /always/ on topic with programmers. :-) -- Crash "It is not necessary to change. Survival is not mandatory." ~ W. Edwards Deming ~
From: Evertjan. on 28 Aug 2010 12:27
Al Dunbar wrote on 28 aug 2010 in microsoft.public.scripting.vbscript: >> Example, the sloppy allowance in vbs of this faulty statement: >> >> if a = b then c = d end if > > Well, what vbscript allows is a moot point, as those (apparent) > weaknesses will never be addressed (along with the known bugs). A good > thing too, as that would probably break a lot of code. The story goes that years ago MS corrected this in an update, and then some really big websites, [like cnn.com and/or bbc.co.uk ?], I remember, came crashing to a full stop, because the programmers had written sloppily about this. In a speedy update the error correction was undone. -- Evertjan. The Netherlands. (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress) |