From: 1st Semester Logic Student on
Hey all,

We have recently moved on to the wonderful world of "derivations." :P I
have found that there is more than one way to derive a sentence in SL
from the premis. How would you guys go about showing that the following
derviation claims hold in SD? Obviously we need to construct a
derivation. How can I type my derivations on the message board? The
following are the ones I'm working on now. Any advice on the best ways
of deriving the following would be helpful as well as any tactics that
may be the best. I have read of a way to work backwards, but I stink at
that so far, so I'm just working from the premis down to what it is I'm
trying to derive.

a) {A v B, ~B} single-turnstile A
b) {[A horseshoe (~B horseshoe C)], A & ~B} single-turnstile C v E
c) {(~A v ~B) horseshoe C, D & ~C} single-turnstile A
d) {A horseshoe ~~B, C horseshoe ~B} single-tunrstile ~(A & C)

Now, in the above I wrote out some of the symbols (horseshoe and
single-turnstile) so that everyone would be able to read it. Please
forgive my "noobieness." Obviously everything before the
single-turnstile are the main assumptions and after the turnstile is
the conclusion which is what I'm trying to derive.

I have some others that I'm trying to show are a theorem in SD. I am
doing this by deriving them from an empty set. This part confuses me
more than the above. Some of these problems are the following:

e) A horseshoe (B horseshoe A)
f) ~A horseshoe ((B & A) horseshoe C)
g) (A v B) horseshoe (B v A)
h) A tripplebar ~~A

Any answers, advice, help, suggestions? I have some truth tables to
work on as well, but they seem very straight forward and I don't think
I need any help with those. I may type up the questions and what I got
as answers just to let you guys check my work.

Thanks!
Logic Noob

From: Jim Spriggs on
1st Semester Logic Student wrote:

> .... How would you guys go about showing that the following
> derviation claims hold in SD? ...
>
> a) {A v B, ~B} single-turnstile A
> b) {[A horseshoe (~B horseshoe C)], A & ~B} single-turnstile C v E
> c) {(~A v ~B) horseshoe C, D & ~C} single-turnstile A
> d) {A horseshoe ~~B, C horseshoe ~B} single-tunrstile ~(A & C)

What is SD? How you deduce things depends on the deductive system
you're using. What are your rules? What are your axioms? Do you have
any derived rules yet?

I'd write |- for single turnstile
-> for horseshoe.
From: William Elliot on
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005, Jim Spriggs wrote:
> 1st Semester Logic Student wrote:
>
> > .... How would you guys go about showing that the following
> > derviation claims hold in SD? ...
> >
> > a) {A v B, ~B} single-turnstile A
> > b) {[A horseshoe (~B horseshoe C)], A & ~B} single-turnstile C v E
> > c) {(~A v ~B) horseshoe C, D & ~C} single-turnstile A
> > d) {A horseshoe ~~B, C horseshoe ~B} single-tunrstile ~(A & C)
>
> What is SD? How you deduce things depends on the deductive system
> you're using. What are your rules? What are your axioms? Do you have
> any derived rules yet?
>
> I'd write |- for single turnstile
> -> for horseshoe.
>
A v B, ~B |- A is also common usage for a).
As we don't know what SL and SD are, I'll to it my way.

~B
B -> ~B
B -> B
B -> ~B&B
~B&B -> A
B -> A
A -> A
B -> A
AvB -> A
AvB
AvB -> A
A

From: 1st Semester Logic Student on
Hey guys!

Here is a link to the rules of SD. I'm supprised you guys haven't heard
of it. It seems to be in every logic book I've seen although I know you
guys are more math based and this is a philosophy class; which I know
you hate. All the rules we use are found at this website. Although it
is not from my university, they are using the same rules we (our book)
uses.

http://www.unc.edu/~theis/logic/SDrules.html

Thanks!

From: Jim Spriggs on
1st Semester Logic Student wrote:
>
> Hey guys!
>
> Here is a link to the rules of SD. I'm supprised you guys haven't heard
> of it. It seems to be in every logic book I've seen

Without looking too closely either at the web page or at the book, they
seem to be the rules in one book out of however many I've got. Since
they appear in not only all of the books you've got, but all you've
seen, you win. What prize would you like?

> although I know you
> guys are more math based and this is a philosophy class

This is irrelevant. We just cannot know what rules, etc, you may use.
Ok, there's a circumstance in which someone here might know: if they are
attending your course and recognize the questions.