From: fatalist on 5 Aug 2010 09:29 On Aug 5, 9:10 am, Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org> wrote: > On 05 Aug 2010 11:45:47 GMT, Ico <use...(a)zeev.nl> wrote: > > >A potential customer requested a feasibiltiy study for a product > >requiring detecion of dog barks in a real-time recorderd digital audio > >signal. Functional requirements describe: > > >"Barks should be detected with a accuracy of at least 80%, while other > >(possibly loud) signals like traffic, playing children, etc should > >generate false positives in no more then 10% of the cases." > > >Any tips on algorithms or literature to get me started ? > > >Thanks, > > >Ico > > Hello Ico, > Wow, that sounds like an interesting project. > Your problem, I believe, falls in the category > of "signal recognition" (a topic of which I'm > shamefully ignorant). I wonder if some of the > techniques used for human "voice recognition" > might be applicable to your problem. My guess > is that your "barking detection" problem is NOT > an easy problem to solve. > > It would be interesting to look at the time- > domain, and frequency-domain, plots of an audio > barking dog signal. > > Concerning the barking of my neighbors' dogs, > I'd be willing to work on this project for free > if it included: (1) detection of dog barking, > and (2) upon detection, application of a severe > electric shock to the rectums of my human neighbors. > > [-Rick-] Ha-Ha-Ha-... I guess your neighbors don't read comp.dsp Neither do mine But my neighbors' dogs rarely bark - they are quite happy and friendly, sometimes too friendly.. The key is to keep your dog well-fed, warm and happy
From: Clay on 5 Aug 2010 10:07 On Aug 5, 7:45 am, Ico <use...(a)zeev.nl> wrote: > A potential customer requested a feasibiltiy study for a product > requiring detecion of dog barks in a real-time recorderd digital audio > signal. Functional requirements describe: > > "Barks should be detected with a accuracy of at least 80%, while other > (possibly loud) signals like traffic, playing children, etc should > generate false positives in no more then 10% of the cases." > > Any tips on algorithms or literature to get me started ? > > Thanks, > > Ico Simple, get your own dog and attach a sound detector with a high detection threshold to your dog. When your dog hears the distant dog's barks, your dog will act as a bark repeater/amplifier and set off your detector which will be rarely falsed because of the high threshold of detection. Clay
From: Rafael Deliano on 5 Aug 2010 10:17 > I wonder if some of the > techniques used for human "voice recognition" > might be applicable to your problem. There was "word spotting" in the 70ies while such research was funded by the DoD. Originally human listeners that had only limited training in Russian would listen to tapes of intercepted radio communications and try to detect key words in the conversation. Then the interesting tapes would be handed over to people that could do a proper translation. The idea was doing the first step by computer cheaper. Dog barks ( burst of coloured noise ? ) are not similar to human speech. If there was only be a single bark and background noise i doubt a human listener could always detect it. One notices its a dog barking because the signal is repeating. MfG JRD
From: Ico on 5 Aug 2010 10:30 Jerry Avins <jya(a)ieee.org> wrote: > On 8/5/2010 7:45 AM, Ico wrote: >> A potential customer requested a feasibiltiy study for a product >> requiring detecion of dog barks in a real-time recorderd digital audio >> signal. Functional requirements describe: >> >> "Barks should be detected with a accuracy of at least 80%, while other >> (possibly loud) signals like traffic, playing children, etc should >> generate false positives in no more then 10% of the cases." >> >> Any tips on algorithms or literature to get me started ? > > Barks in general, or a particular dog? Even a relatively narrow range of > breeds would help. Given the yip-yip of a Chihuahua, the baying of a > beagle, or the booming bass of a Great Pyrenees, I don't see enough > common underlying structure to distinguish a dog from an odd motorbike. All very true, these are the first things that came to mind when I heard of the project, not an easy task at all. I did some quick tests with various barking samples I gathered, and I'm not sure if this can be done at all, given the requirements. I found there is one thing common to all barks though: * relatively broadbanded, easily spanning two or three octaves * bursty, i have found non longer than 350 msec * Envelope seems quite consistent, attack adn delay seem to be equally steep. * there seems to be the same 'melody' in the fundamental often, going up and down for a few notes during the bark I guess my approach will be to find bursts of interesting length to start with, these will pick the interesting sounds from background noise. Then inspect the bursts for expected envelope, and check for spectral properties. Interesting project indeed, I might report back with some first results. Thanks for the feedback
From: Steve Pope on 5 Aug 2010 10:34 Wire a test dog to a few sensors and see when he responds to the audio. Steve
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