Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Steve O on 15 Aug 2008 16:13 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:51e497b1-709c-41bd-b4f7-865267c5a3db(a)f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > > Well, it was known before this earth was even here that there was only > one who was capable of living a mortal life without sin. Everyone > else was imperfect. > Robert B. Winn You mean Jesus? He was a very sinful person. He certainly displayed the cardinal sin of wrath, when he threw the moneylenders out of the temple. Also, he had long hair, which according to the bible is certainly a sin. (1 Cor 11-14) -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
From: Steve O on 15 Aug 2008 16:21 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:c23f13ad-926a-4dec-8f6e-fd14ed8e37c5(a)79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 15, 3:20�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:870f9dcd-3e91-408e-8588-ef1894d51517(a)d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> You've confused me. I was asking about what "save" means and you said >> >> that I have to make up my own mind what to do. >> >> >> What does "save" mean? >> >> > A person who is saved does not spend eternity in hell. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> Why would anyone want to spend eternity in hell? >> I certainly wouldn't go near a dump like that. >> -- > Why would anyone want to spend all day in a bar drinking alcohol? Too get drunk To meet women? > People who reject the atonement of Christ are going to want to be with > other people who have rejected the atonement of Christ. Then they can > be miserable together. > Robert B. Winn Why would they be miserable? -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
From: rbwinn on 15 Aug 2008 19:58 On Aug 15, 1:13�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:51e497b1-709c-41bd-b4f7-865267c5a3db(a)f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > > > > > Well, it was known before this earth was even here that there was only > > one who was capable of living a mortal life without sin. �Everyone > > else was imperfect. > > Robert B. Winn > > You mean Jesus? > He was a very sinful person. > He certainly displayed the cardinal sin of wrath, when he threw the > moneylenders out of the temple. > Also, he had long hair, which according to the bible is certainly a sin. > (1 Cor 11-14) > -- Well, that is an atheistic assessment of the situation. The leaders of the Jews, whose money changers he threw out of the temple, did not dare to accuse him of sin when he did it. They meekly left. To atheists, temples are places for making money. The Jews knew they were not supposed to be doing what they were doing. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 15 Aug 2008 21:00 On Aug 15, 1:21�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:c23f13ad-926a-4dec-8f6e-fd14ed8e37c5(a)79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Aug 15, 3:20 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:870f9dcd-3e91-408e-8588-ef1894d51517(a)d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com.... > > >> >> You've confused me. I was asking about what "save" means and you said > >> >> that I have to make up my own mind what to do. > > >> >> What does "save" mean? > > >> > A person who is saved does not spend eternity in hell. > >> > Robert B. Winn > > >> Why would anyone want to spend eternity in hell? > >> I certainly wouldn't go near a dump like that. > >> -- > > Why would anyone want to spend all day in a bar drinking alcohol? > > Too get drunk > To meet women? > > > People who reject the atonement of Christ are going to want to be with > > other people who have rejected the atonement of Christ. �Then they can > > be miserable together. > > Robert B. Winn > > Why would they be miserable? > Getting drunk and meeting women will not be goals after this life. Robert B. Winn
From: Yap on 15 Aug 2008 21:46
On Aug 15, 4:40 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Aug 14, 11:14 pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 15, 11:33 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Well, are you saying that people who were killed by the tsunami could > > > not go to heaven? > > > Robert B. Winn > > > So, now you admit your god is a murderer? > > Killing so many innocent people at one go? What crime had they > > committed? > > May be you are projecting that while god created human, he could also > > take away their lives whenever he pleased? > > > If so, please tell us that you speak on behalf of all loons, all > > preachers/pastors and your pope. Of course, I understand you speak on > > behalf of your god, but since you are not certified by him and we know > > there can be no authorization, the next choice is if you are indeed > > given the status of spokesman for the Christians.- Hide quoted text - > > Well, God could certainly have prevented the tsunami, but evidently no > one asked Him to do it. > Robert B. Winn What are you talking about? We are supposed to know that he created tsunami ? Or some one else created the tsunami? If your god need to be asked to stop some disaster, then what power/ ability you assigned to him? Can you agree with us that your god is useless? |