Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 17 Aug 2008 17:50 On Aug 17, 9:05�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:23755116-ff25-4fb0-9626-26c8589faa1d(a)x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Aug 16, 10:14 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > >> Steve O wrote: > >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > >> >news:3e26dc41-0db5-40a4-ab82-79170e80c8fe(a)w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com.... > >> >> On Aug 15, 9:34?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > >> >>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>> On Aug 15, 1:21?pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >> >>>>>news:c23f13ad-926a-4dec-8f6e-fd14ed8e37c5(a)79g2000hsk.googlegroups..com... > > >> >>>>>> On Aug 15, 3:20 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >> >>>>>>>news:870f9dcd-3e91-408e-8588-ef1894d51517(a)d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > >> >>>>>>>>> You've confused me. I was asking about what "save" means and > >> >>>>>>>>> you said that I have to make up my own mind what to do. > > >> >>>>>>>>> What does "save" mean? > > >> >>>>>>>> A person who is saved does not spend eternity in hell. > >> >>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > > >> >>>>>>> Why would anyone want to spend eternity in hell? > >> >>>>>>> I certainly wouldn't go near a dump like that. > >> >>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>> Why would anyone want to spend all day in a bar drinking alcohol? > > >> >>>>> Too get drunk > >> >>>>> To meet women? > > >> >>>>>> People who reject the atonement of Christ are going to want to be > >> >>>>>> with other people who have rejected the atonement of Christ. > >> >>>>>> ?Then they can be miserable together. > >> >>>>>> Robert B. Winn > > >> >>>>> Why would they be miserable? > > >> >>>> Getting drunk and meeting women will not be goals after this life.. > > >> >>> Being dead puts an end to all fun. It's a pity there's no afterlife, > >> >>> isn't > >> >>> it, skippy? > > >> >> One way or the other, the souls of all people continue on after > >> >> death. > >> >> Robert B. Winn > > >> > Do you have any evidence that such a thing as a soul exists, or do you > >> > simply take it for granted that it does? > > >> I'd like to know whereabout in the body this supposed 'soul' is. > >> Why haven't any doctors found one yet? > >> It's not described in any medical textbooks. > > > So you are claiming that a dead person is exactly the same as a living > > person. > > Robert B. Winn > > Errr...no? > What makes you think that we make that claim? > I have seen lots of living people and hundreds of dead people. > Even I can tell there is a difference between them, like breathing, for > example. > You know, it's really hard work having conversations with you - you seem to > be completely clueless about the simplest things. > So your idea is that a person who is breathing is exactly like a person who is not breathing. Robert B. Winn
From: Alex W. on 17 Aug 2008 19:29 "Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> wrote in message news:6gp1cmFgsi3bU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message > news:f564f026-e31f-4b63-9f0c-2f6c1bff21bf(a)c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >> Well, I think we need to see what happens with killer >> whales when the >> millenium starts. If the Bible is correct, they won't >> still be eating >> seals. >> Robert B. Winn > > what the hell do you think they'll be eating? > Sushi? By that time, the Japanese will have killed them all "for scientific purposes", so the question won't even arise. Whale sashimi, anyone?
From: Steve O on 17 Aug 2008 19:37 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:52dd6042-d645-4ad9-80f5-ff6ef9743b70(a)y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 17, 9:05�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> >> > Do you have any evidence that such a thing as a soul exists, or do >> >> > you >> >> > simply take it for granted that it does? >> >> >> I'd like to know whereabout in the body this supposed 'soul' is. >> >> Why haven't any doctors found one yet? >> >> It's not described in any medical textbooks. >> >> > So you are claiming that a dead person is exactly the same as a living >> > person. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> Errr...no? >> What makes you think that we make that claim? >> I have seen lots of living people and hundreds of dead people. >> Even I can tell there is a difference between them, like breathing, for >> example. >> You know, it's really hard work having conversations with you - you seem >> to >> be completely clueless about the simplest things. >> > So your idea is that a person who is breathing is exactly like a > person who is not breathing. > Robert B. Winn <sigh> No. The clue is in the sentence, "Even I can tell there is athere is a DIFFERENCE between them, like breathing, for example." (see above) You seem to have a problem with understanding... words ....simple ones. Why is that? -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
From: rbwinn on 17 Aug 2008 21:35 On Aug 17, 4:37�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:52dd6042-d645-4ad9-80f5-ff6ef9743b70(a)y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Aug 17, 9:05 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> >> > Do you have any evidence that such a thing as a soul exists, or do > >> >> > you > >> >> > simply take it for granted that it does? > > >> >> I'd like to know whereabout in the body this supposed 'soul' is. > >> >> Why haven't any doctors found one yet? > >> >> It's not described in any medical textbooks. > > >> > So you are claiming that a dead person is exactly the same as a living > >> > person. > >> > Robert B. Winn > > >> Errr...no? > >> What makes you think that we make that claim? > >> I have seen lots of living people and hundreds of dead people. > >> Even I can tell there is a difference between them, like breathing, for > >> example. > >> You know, it's really hard work having conversations with you - you seem > >> to > >> be completely clueless about the simplest things. > > > So your idea is that a person who is breathing is exactly like a > > person who is not breathing. > > Robert B. Winn > > <sigh> > No. > The clue is in the sentence, "Even I can tell there is athere is a > DIFFERENCE between them, like breathing, for example." (see above) > > You seem to have a problem with understanding... words > ...simple ones. > Why is that? > You were the one claiming that a living person did not have a soul. Why do you suppose one person is breathing, and one is not breathing? Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 17 Aug 2008 23:15
On Aug 17, 6:24�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > The comedy is in that , oh forget it. > > > So it did not turn out as funny as you thought it would, Al? > > Robert B. Winn > > No, it's still funny. �I just give in trying to explain anything more > complicated than "the pen is on the table" to you. �Situations more > complex than the sort of thing you might find in a 2yr old's story > book seem to be a tad too complicated for you. > > Al Well, I believe that you were trying to explain to me that child molesters were good people. That does seem a little complicated, but go ahead with your explanation. Robert B. Winn |