From: gumby on
On 21/05/2010 7:17 PM, Rich wrote:

> Their taste is like their taste in cars. Undergunned, with cheezy,
> non-functional wings and scoops, covered with stickers that mean
> nothing, etc.

Not true, the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo (400hp) will out peform a
Lambourghini for 1/3 of the price and with 150 less hp. That means it
will outperform the iconic Corvette too. Don't believe me? Look up Top
Gear video on youtube showing it doing just that.
From: gumby on
On 22/05/2010 12:31 PM, Paul Heslop wrote:

> In the UK there's no problem with imports and most of the cars are
> built here anyway.
> back in the 60s etc most people equated japanese with cheap and I seem
> to recall their being an import limit or something. now our home cars
> makers are all but gone and we build or use mainly foreign cars. Ford
> UK and Vauxhall are the only large UK makers left. and I think they're
> both american :O)
>

Ford is American company but Vauxhall was British but is now owned by GM
(American).
From: Paul Heslop on
gumby wrote:
>
> On 22/05/2010 12:31 PM, Paul Heslop wrote:
>
> > In the UK there's no problem with imports and most of the cars are
> > built here anyway.
> > back in the 60s etc most people equated japanese with cheap and I seem
> > to recall their being an import limit or something. now our home cars
> > makers are all but gone and we build or use mainly foreign cars. Ford
> > UK and Vauxhall are the only large UK makers left. and I think they're
> > both american :O)
> >
>
> Ford is American company but Vauxhall was British but is now owned by GM
> (American).

yeah, that's about what I thought, though they always make a point of
saying ford UK

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From: Paul Heslop on
Savageduck wrote:
>
> On 2010-05-23 08:52:56 -0700, Paul Heslop <paul.heslop(a)blueyonder.co.uk> said:
>
> > gumby wrote:
> >>
> >> On 22/05/2010 12:31 PM, Paul Heslop wrote:
> >>
> >>> In the UK there's no problem with imports and most of the cars are
> >>> built here anyway.
> >>> back in the 60s etc most people equated japanese with cheap and I seem
> >>> to recall their being an import limit or something. now our home cars
> >>> makers are all but gone and we build or use mainly foreign cars. Ford
> >>> UK and Vauxhall are the only large UK makers left. and I think they're
> >>> both american :O)
> >>>
> >>
> >> Ford is American company but Vauxhall was British but is now owned by GM
> >> (American).
> >
> > yeah, that's about what I thought, though they always make a point of
> > saying ford UK
>
> Vauxhall has been owned by GM since 1925. Euro-GM also own Opel and
> Saab (since sold to Spyker) They also owned Bedford which was also a
> part of Vauxhall
>
> In Australia they have Holden, some variants of which returned to the
> US in the guise of a failed resurrection of the Pontiac GTO.
>
> Ford used to differentiate by using Detroit (US Ford) or Dagenham (UK
> Ford). However there isn't actually a Ford UK anymore. Now it is Ford
> Europe with production of parts and vehicles spread from plants in the
> UK, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Turkey & Romania.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Savageduck

and am I right in thinking that some of the euro ford models are
popular in america now? or do they just use names that sound similar,
like 'escort'?
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From: Paul Heslop on
Savageduck wrote:
>
> On 2010-05-23 14:44:05 -0700, Paul Heslop <paul.heslop(a)blueyonder.co.uk> said:
>
> > Savageduck wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2010-05-23 08:52:56 -0700, Paul Heslop <paul.heslop(a)blueyonder.co.uk> said:
> >>
> >>> gumby wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 22/05/2010 12:31 PM, Paul Heslop wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In the UK there's no problem with imports and most of the cars are
> >>>>> built here anyway.
> >>>>> back in the 60s etc most people equated japanese with cheap and I seem
> >>>>> to recall their being an import limit or something. now our home cars
> >>>>> makers are all but gone and we build or use mainly foreign cars. Ford
> >>>>> UK and Vauxhall are the only large UK makers left. and I think they're
> >>>>> both american :O)
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ford is American company but Vauxhall was British but is now owned by GM
> >>>> (American).
> >>>
> >>> yeah, that's about what I thought, though they always make a point of
> >>> saying ford UK
> >>
> >> Vauxhall has been owned by GM since 1925. Euro-GM also own Opel and
> >> Saab (since sold to Spyker) They also owned Bedford which was also a
> >> part of Vauxhall
> >>
> >> In Australia they have Holden, some variants of which returned to the
> >> US in the guise of a failed resurrection of the Pontiac GTO.
> >>
> >> Ford used to differentiate by using Detroit (US Ford) or Dagenham (UK
> >> Ford). However there isn't actually a Ford UK anymore. Now it is Ford
> >> Europe with production of parts and vehicles spread from plants in the
> >> UK, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Turkey & Romania.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Savageduck
> >
> > and am I right in thinking that some of the euro ford models are
> > popular in america now? or do they just use names that sound similar,
> > like 'escort'?
>
> The Escort is long gone. One of the most successful Fords of the last
> 20 odd years was the Taurus, which was an Americanization of the German
> Ford "Taunus". Which in turn was a development of the "Cortina."
>
> The original Ford "Festiva" was marketed in the US and bombed. That car
> was a rebadged Kia "Pride". The "Festiva" name was resurected in
> Europe, but that was essentially a Mazda.
>
> The Ford "Fiesta" was marketed in the US, but was dropped in 1981.
> There are plans to bring the new "Fiesta" to the US sometime this year.
>
> The "Mondeo" was sold in the US as the Ford "Contour" until 1998. I
> owned an LX with the 2.5L Duratec V6, and I thought it was a pretty
> good vehicle, until I fell asleep at the wheel after working three 16
> hour shifts in a row. I believe the solid structure saved me that day.
> < http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Ford_08.jpg >
> < http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Ford_12.JPG >
> < http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Ford_14.JPG >
>
> BTW those shot were taken with my wife's Pentax 35mm P&S, before I went
> digital.
>
heh, you are one lucky person. there was a thing here with the early
mondeo that it had a nasty habit of drifting to one side. top gear did
a feature on it when it was a semi serious motoring program.

I was sure at one time that I spotted a Granada or two, or something
very similar, in movies.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/ford%20granada%20mk3/Th3blueroom/Scorpio.jpg
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