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From: Rod Speed on 29 Dec 2009 21:41 ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote >> ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote >>> I noticed my five(?) years old office PC's HDD is getting >>> slower and slower these days. I wonder if it is dying. >> You dont usually get that particular symptom if it is dying. > Really? Yes. > In the past, I had an old HDD that read so slow like under 1 > MB/sec. I swapped with an other old HDD and it was faster. Likely the second drive was always faster even when both drives were brand new. You can get a drive being slower when its dying, when it retrys on bads and does eventually read the data correctly, but if it was that it would show up on the SMART report. >>> I don't see anything in SMART colors to show >>> any issues. The technical values confuse me: >> Yeah, thats always been one downside with SMART, the values can be confusing. >> The everest SMART report is more readable than smartctl too. > Ah. >>> smartctl -a sda >>> smartctl version 5.38 [i686-mingw32-xp-sp2] Copyright (C) 2002-8 > [snipped] >> The drive is fine. > Thanks. :) Sorrite. And stop smirking. This is no laughing matter.
From: Rod Speed on 29 Dec 2009 21:42 Its still fine, nothing that matters has changed in the SMART report. ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote: > FYI with updated results, I just noticed a newer version and reran a > full test: > > smartctl 5.39 2009-12-09 r2995 [i686-pc-mingw32-xp-sp2] > (sf-win32-5.39-1) > Copyright (C) 2002-9 by Bruce Allen, > http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > Model Family: Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 family > Device Model: Maxtor 6Y080M0 > Serial Number: Y22BP5AC > Firmware Version: YAR51HW0 > User Capacity: 80,000,000,000 bytes > Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] > ATA Version is: 7 > ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 0 > Local Time is: Tue Dec 29 18:23:31 2009 PST > SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. > Enabled status cached by OS, trying SMART RETURN > STATUS cmd. > SMART support is: Enabled > > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === > SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED > > General SMART Values: > Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection > activity > was completed without error. > Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. > Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test > routine completed > without error or no self-test has ever > been run. > Total time to complete Offline > data collection: ( 241) seconds. > Offline data collection > capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. > Auto Offline data collection on/off support. > Suspend Offline collection upon new > command. > Offline surface scan supported. > Self-test supported. > No Conveyance Self-test supported. > Selective Self-test supported. > SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before > entering > power-saving mode. > Supports SMART auto save timer. > Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. > No General Purpose Logging support. > Short self-test routine > recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. > Extended self-test routine > recommended polling time: ( 36) minutes. > > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE > UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 > 224 224 063 Pre-fail Always - 7747 4 > Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always > - 65 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 253 253 063 > Pre-fail Always - 0 6 Read_Channel_Margin 0x0001 > 253 253 100 Pre-fail Offline - 0 7 > Seek_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always > - 0 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0027 249 237 187 > Pre-fail Always - 34557 9 Power_On_Minutes 0x0032 > 141 141 000 Old_age Always - 617h+32m 10 > Spin_Retry_Count 0x002b 253 252 157 Pre-fail Always > - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x002b 253 252 223 > Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 > 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 72 192 > Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always > - 0 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 > Old_age Always - 0 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0032 > 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 50 195 > Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always > - 1504 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0008 253 253 000 > Old_age Offline - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0008 > 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 198 > Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 253 253 000 Old_age Offline > - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0008 199 199 000 > Old_age Offline - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000a > 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 201 > Soft_Read_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 243 000 Old_age Always > - 26 202 Data_Address_Mark_Errs 0x000a 253 252 000 > Old_age Always - 0 203 Run_Out_Cancel 0x000b > 253 252 180 Pre-fail Always - 1 204 > Soft_ECC_Correction 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always > - 0 205 Thermal_Asperity_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 > Old_age Always - 0 207 Spin_High_Current 0x002a > 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 208 Spin_Buzz > 0x002a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 209 > Offline_Seek_Performnce 0x0024 191 191 000 Old_age Offline > - 0 99 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 > Old_age Offline - 0 100 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 > 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 101 > Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age Offline > - 0 > > SMART Error Log Version: 1 > No Errors Logged > > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 > Num Test_Description Status Remaining > LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Extended offline > Completed without error 00% 36417 - # 2 Extended > offline Completed without error 00% 35352 - # 3 > Extended offline Completed without error 00% 29236 > - # 4 Short offline Completed without error 00% > 0 - > > SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 > SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS > 1 0 0 Not_testing > 2 0 0 Not_testing > 3 0 0 Not_testing > 4 0 0 Not_testing > 5 0 0 Not_testing > Selective self-test flags (0x0): > After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. > If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute > delay. >>> o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): >>> http://aqfl.net > \ _ / Please remove ANT if replying by > e-mail. 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From: Rod Speed on 29 Dec 2009 21:44 ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote: >>> I don't see anything in SMART colors to show >>> any issues. The technical values confuse me: >> Yeah, thats always been one downside with SMART, the values can be confusing. >> The everest SMART report is more readable than smartctl too. > Isn't Everest program not free anymore? :( Yes, but the free version is still available. http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181
From: Arno on 29 Dec 2009 21:59 ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote: > I noticed my five(?) years old office PC's HDD is getting slower and > slower these days. I wonder if it is dying. I don't see anything in > SMART colors to show any issues. The technical values confuse me: Looks healthy. Likely just fragmented like crazy or low on free space. Arno > smartctl -a sda > smartctl version 5.38 [i686-mingw32-xp-sp2] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen > Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > Model Family: Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 family > Device Model: Maxtor 6Y080M0 > Serial Number: Y22BP5AC > Firmware Version: YAR51HW0 > User Capacity: 80,000,000,000 bytes > Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] > ATA Version is: 7 > ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 0 > Local Time is: Tue Dec 29 15:33:24 2009 PST > SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. > Enabled status cached by OS, trying SMART RETURN STATUS cmd. > SMART support is: Enabled > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === > SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED > General SMART Values: > Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity > was completed without error. > Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. > Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed > without error or no self-test has ever > been run. > Total time to complete Offline > data collection: ( 241) seconds. > Offline data collection > capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. > Auto Offline data collection on/off support. > Suspend Offline collection upon new > command. > Offline surface scan supported. > Self-test supported. > No Conveyance Self-test supported. > Selective Self-test supported. > SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering > power-saving mode. > Supports SMART auto save timer. > Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. > No General Purpose Logging support. > Short self-test routine > recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. > Extended self-test routine > recommended polling time: ( 36) minutes. > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE > 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 224 224 063 Pre-fail Always - 7747 > 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 65 > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 253 253 063 Pre-fail Always - 0 > 6 Read_Channel_Margin 0x0001 253 253 100 Pre-fail Offline - 0 > 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0027 248 237 187 Pre-fail Always - 38101 > 9 Power_On_Minutes 0x0032 141 141 000 Old_age Always - 614h+43m > 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x002b 253 252 157 Pre-fail Always - 0 > 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x002b 253 252 223 Pre-fail Always - 0 > 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 72 > 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 50 > 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 924 > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0008 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0008 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0008 199 199 000 Old_age Offline - 0 > 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 201 Soft_Read_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 243 000 Old_age Always - 15 > 202 TA_Increase_Count 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 203 Run_Out_Cancel 0x000b 253 252 180 Pre-fail Always - 2 > 204 Shock_Count_Write_Opern 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 205 Shock_Rate_Write_Opern 0x000a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 207 Spin_High_Current 0x002a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 208 Spin_Buzz 0x002a 253 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 209 Offline_Seek_Performnce 0x0024 191 191 000 Old_age Offline - 0 > 99 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 > 100 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 > 101 Unknown_Attribute 0x0004 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 > SMART Error Log Version: 1 > No Errors Logged > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 > Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error > # 1 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 35352 - > # 2 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 29236 - > # 3 Short offline Completed without error 00% 0 - > SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 > SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS > 1 0 0 Not_testing > 2 0 0 Not_testing > 3 0 0 Not_testing > 4 0 0 Not_testing > 5 0 0 Not_testing > Selective self-test flags (0x0): > After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. > If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. > What do you guys think? 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From: Franc Zabkar on 30 Dec 2009 00:00
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:42:18 -0600, ANTant(a)zimage.com put finger to keyboard and composed: >I noticed my five(?) years old office PC's HDD ... Model Family: Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 family 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 65 9 Power_On_Minutes 0x0032 141 141 000 Old_age Always - 614h+43m Hmmm, you have an old generation HDD that has run for only 614 hours and has been power cycled only 65 times ??? >... is getting slower and slower these days. Check whether it has been downgraded from DMA mode to PIO. >I wonder if it is dying. I don't see anything in >SMART colors to show any issues. The technical values confuse me: >194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 50 The temperature is about 10C too high for my liking. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |